"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Panther
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The first sentence would be fine
MrBond007
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-"Lets go to the movies this weekend"
-"Lets have supper tomorrow"
Kineti[C]harm
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MrBond007
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And later during the evening you can go overkill and yell "Donkey Punch GO!" when you are about to come. (Assuming you know what Donkey Punch is).
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
PuertoRican_Lover
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Do a fun activity where you can talk and enjoy each others company!You have a couple of things going wrong here:
1. You have NO ONE to go to the movies with in the first place so your seeing if she can keep you company cos nobody else wnats to, bad image to portray.
2. Going to the movies on a first meet up is wrong for many reasons. Its too classical for dating and doesnt set you apart from all the other guys hoping to score with her. You wont be able to even talk to her properly.
Why not do something different? Play pool, go shopping etc!
PuertoRican_Lover
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I know you are not a man, because men don't do 'shopping' on a date, let alone the first one, hell let alone with their wives!
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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MrBond007
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If shes not intereted she will decline it.
Its a known technique among telemarketers:
-Make only statements
eople are less likely to decline because they beleive it is wrong subconsciously to decline something when it isnt asked in a matter of "yes or no"-Ask a lot of questions that they will answer by yes and then ask one they might have said no to. 90% of the times their mind will be more inclined to answer yes because of a "trend".
Ehh dude, what has shopping on MY interests got to do with being a chump and putting her on a pedestal! Do you put a chick on a pedestal when you want to buy some sports supplements or a new pair of pants for yourself? I aint talking about buying her ****, Im talking about going shopping because your ALREADY going shopping to BUY stuff for YOURSELF, shes just tagging along with you to keep company and enjoy YOUR company in the process window shopping herself.Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Pua_Guy I was with you all the way until your last sentence where you said "go shopping". Are you 15 years old? Why would you do something so 'chumpish' as shopping? You are already putting her on a pedestal on the first date!
I know you are not a man, because men don't do 'shopping' on a date, let alone the first one, hell let alone with their wives!
Also since your such a "big mucho man" meeting women isnt called a "date" thats for weak chumps who put women on pedestals, when you meet a woman for a first time its called a "meet" or a "get together"!
Mainstream movies are lame on first meet, you can hire a DVD at your place or go to some international cinema with her where shes never been, thats cool!
Shopping IS allright to go with her (read my reply to MR Chump himself) as long as you want to check something out and arent dangling back and fourth in search for unknown!
Its is a much better idea to TELL Women what to do because your a MAN not a little boy or her GF who asks her to do things, you must never ask women of things! Suggest or tell them!
Plus if shes not interested in you anyway wtf are you doing wasting time on her?
Tell her to meet up, if she declines then say "Cool Ill just ask someone else, cya!"
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Her So and so..
Me Alright, I'll check it out. You can tag along if you'd like. Though I'm sure that (insert random thing [IE: dinner with your mom, tea with grandma, etc) is much more exciting.
I gave an example for the movies, since thats what you hinted at in your post.
Edit: Forgot to add: Stay with the less popular date ideas. For instance; going to a coffee house, walk in the park, etc etc. Anything original. Movies are old, and you can't do any good talking in them either. Asking a girl on a date is all about confidence and how you word it. You have to make sure your:
i) telling her that your going, and she can come if she likes. No asking, because your telling her.
ii) making the idea original.