"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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date tomrorow... she's married!

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this would be the second married woman i've been with.

i feel a tiny bit bad that i'm meeting a married woman tomorrow. she likes me i know it because she never leaves me alone. she hates it when i don't talk to her. i tried to keep my distance cause of the marriage thing but i think she gets lonely... her husband works away alot. she's offered to meet me and see a movie a few times and i finally gave in today and i'm going tomorrow... IF i keep the plan on the go that is. i like her because she's older and mature. she doesn't play those silly head games. she's just open and straight out. i set a date with her within five minutes no hassles. i planned it all and took the lead. i dont know what to do. doesn't hurt to go i guess. i'm not gonna plant any moves.

if she didnt have a great personality, this probably wouldn't of happened.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Well, I've had sex with married women before that were cheating on their husbands, and I regretted it both times. The husband's NEVER found out about it, but it still bothers me that I did it behind another man's back. And, I banged her in HIS bed while he was away on business, so that made me feel even worse, and it wasn't even that fun because I was nervous because I was banging a woman in another man's bed. When it was over the chick says to me with a smile, "this tonight......it just....happened." And, she was laughing when she said it and she is the one that pursued it, and she says it "just happened." Ah, cheating hos.
 

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say no to hors, montana


she doesn't play those silly head games.
you mean she doesn't play games with YOU. she's clearly playing another man


if she didnt have a great personality, this probably wouldn't of happened
hors are only good for physical pleasure. Forget about her personality.
 

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well i don't see no relationship happening but i haven't had a proper date in a while because of all the hor's around. at least if i go with her it will keep me busy because i just sit at home all the time wondering when i'm gonna find that special girl.

like you ryannath, i was in the exact same situation. it was in the husbands bed. however, i didn't regret it... was my first time and she was great. i say, if a woman is gonna cheat, she's already done it before she fuked you. it's not our fault they are hor's. if it's not you it's gonna be someone else... and if they're gonna open their legs, might as well dive in.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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hmm i know. thats the one thing that's making me think twice about this. should i call it off lol. i've always been picky about the way a girl looks and the only good thing about this one is her eyes. she looks a bit biggish. i just wanna see the movie!
 

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i think Monster woke me up a bit and i'm thinking of cancelling it. i've had much better than that. just lately i can't be fuked trying to game on hot girls...requires more effort :p
 

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she's not ugly, more like a 6 probably. But it's seriously stupid to date a hor. If you're going to do anything with a hor, sex her. Don't go have dinner and a movie with her.
 

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i'm trying to actually find someone else at the moment lol. i feel a bit silly going on a date with a married woman.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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FFS! im starting to get pissed off... everytime i ask a girl to do somethin they say they are busy!!!! women are always fukin busy! the only one is this damn married woman sittin at home alone. i asked this hottie just then on the phone and it went somethin like this;

blah blah blah (fast forward to the bad part)

me: well i am passing that way tomorrow. i'd like you to come for a walk with me, maybe see a movie.

her: im studying at school all morning and afternoon and have papers to do

me: alright, no problem. we'll do it another time... i'll talk to you later okay my bus is here. see ya.

this sucks cause she's one of the nicest girls i met she just never wants to go anywhere. she's always either doing martial arts training, at the gym, studying or some other bullsh!t.
 

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some women are truly so busy that they are undateable

Most of the time, tho, busy-ness is just an excuse to turn you down. Get better at your game and don't be so damn needy. Don't settle for low-quality hors.

And btw, don't suggest seeing a movie as a first date. Not only does it generally not work, but even if it does, you don't get a chance to converse much.
 

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can you believe one girl i spoke to a few hours ago said AFTER i asked her when does she get a free day... she goes: "i gotta go, talk to you soon okay." pfft. she's out the window i guess.

Obsidian said:
some women are truly so busy that they are undateable

Most of the time, tho, busy-ness is just an excuse to turn you down. Get better at your game and don't be so damn needy. Don't settle for low-quality hors.

And btw, don't suggest seeing a movie as a first date. Not only does it generally not work, but even if it does, you don't get a chance to converse much.
i know, i can't help being needy. i've been single for a while and i know needyness is a turn off with girls. i just love being close to a girl and spending time with her. *sigh* :(
 

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tony-montana said:
...i know, i can't help being needy. i've been single for a while and i know needyness is a turn off with girls. i just love being close to a girl and spending time with her. *sigh* :(
Sounds as if you need to but more effort in other interests so that you can stop associating your happiness with the need to be with someone... Anyone....
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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hmm, yeah. how's this for a cancel excuse: "hey *** listen, i can't make it tonight, something just came up. my cousin needs to return a car she rented to perth and she dont know the way there and then we are staying up there with her friend for the night that she aint seen in ages... im really sorry :S"
 

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hmm, yeah. how's this for a cancel excuse: "hey *** listen, i can't make it tonight, something just came up. my cousin needs to return a car she rented to perth and she dont know the way there and then we are staying up there with her friend for the night that she aint seen in ages... im really sorry :S"
I don't know, sounds a bit flimsy and even ambiguous. Why not tell her that you don't feel right going through with it.
 

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i think i'm just gonna go see the movie on my own like i used to. getting a headache asking girls out.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I don't know, sounds a bit flimsy and even ambiguous. Why not tell her that you don't feel right going through with it.
good idea, i will just say that i don't feel comfortable seeing a married woman.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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