"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Okay, so I'm going on a date w/ a girl I barely know. Met her at a party and talked to her on AIM a few times..I plan on setting up a date tomorrow for either friday or saturday night.

Now on the date, what are some good convo starters? I know some things about her, but not much. What are good open ended questions to break the ice?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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average questions can easily be turned with simple followups...

example
you: do you work?
her: yeah i'm a hostess at outback
you: do you like it?
her: well i'm thinking about quitting its pissing me off (got a bit more)
you: why?
her: because my boss always schedules me for friday nights but i dont wanna work friday nights and yadda yadda yadda

see? you can take a usually mundane question and turn it to something progressively larger.
 

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priz said:
Okay, so I'm going on a date w/ a girl I barely know. Met her at a party and talked to her on AIM a few times..I plan on setting up a date tomorrow for either friday or saturday night.

Now on the date, what are some good convo starters? I know some things about her, but not much. What are good open ended questions to break the ice?
just talk to her..there are no rules

if you're comfortable with the person, you will have fun, when you have fun, then the other person has fun too

when you talk just add when, how, why, what, where, who...
let HER talk..but let there be some silences in between
 

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just remember and repeat...

i'm a man, i'm in control, and i want to get the most out of this moment as possible, every moment possible
 

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Okay...so I called her tonight to setup the date..when I called her she seemed kind of down, then I told her it was me and she got all excited and was uplifted...we talked a lil about random **** that was goin on, but she said she needed to get rdy for bed and she'd call me back (not sure if she meant tonight or tomorrow..i dont remember)...anyway I didn't get a chance to ask her if she was free for fri/sat night, so should I wait for her to call me tomorrow and if she doesn't I call her? She seems into me just by her reaction alone when I called.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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if she doesnt call leave it a day or two... you dont want to be overly keen... you want her to see you are quite busy etc
 

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K...well she hasn't called me today, should I wait until tomorrow? I want to setup the date for friday night..the thing is, the longer I wait, the more likely she is to have made plans already for that night. I was talking to some girl for advice and she said its fine to call her tonight.
 

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yea tomorrow, or you could wait until next week and sort something out then, like say your busy this friday or something
 
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