"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Date change - use takeaway?

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When you have a date set with a girl for 6pm and she messages you with a story - reasons as to why - for her convenience - that the date be moved back to 9pm. Do you accept this with an idgaf attitude or use the takeaway to judge IL and attempt to keep the original plan?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Tell her if she's busy then you'll arrange it for next week once she's checked her schedule and seen when she's free?
 

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It really depends on how I’m feeling about the girl and what my own schedule is like. If the girl has been a bit flakey and distant and on thin ice with me for that kind of thing, I generally won’t accept it and will tell her no worries, but I have an early day the next day so we can just try it some other time. If she isn’t on thin ice and it’s not horribly inconvenient for me (like I have stuff I can do to fill the time) then I’ll agree to it. But I wouldn’t let it become a pattern.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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DEEZEDBRAH

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It wouldn’t bother me if it’s a one time deal. Some things are more important and urgent than a date. If her story sounded lame and/or she continues this type of behavior, then it’s time to mentally gauge the situation…
She didn't cancel. +1

Let it ride. She could be a **** and text after the date. Then op looks like a chode.
 

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To much thinking, she changes date time? Ok cool

She flakes, then you know where you stand.

This site will really have guys overthinking every little thing......

If she doesnt show up then you can hold it against her......

Have fun
 

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Let's have a date later, no matter the reason involved, is called an availability trap. It's a sht test. You fail by falling for it.

If you fall for it, chances that the date will happen at 9 P.M., and chances that she will not flake or be late for that 9 P.M. are high. Chances of you fcking are low.

By failing availability trap essentially you saying you have no other options. Even if you have no other options, you should show that you have other options.

Ok, this one time, go ahead and reschudle your date, just to see what happens when you supplicate to women's whims.


Do you accept this with an idgaf attitude or use the takeaway to judge IL and attempt to keep the original plan?
It wouldn’t bother me if it’s a one time deal.
It really depends on how I’m feeling about the girl and what my own schedule is like.
This is overthinking .. if the schedule change fits your schedule, have the date.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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2Rocky

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9 pm is "**** me date time" You are off the hook to buy dinner. Meet up with some guy friends at 6 pm and have her meet you at a bar for a couple quick drinks then back to your place within 1 hour. You should get laid...
 

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It's a sh!t test.
And a very stupid one too!
It means you are on the bottom of her priority list.

I've fallen for this trap twice in my lifetime.

(1st incident)
I set the time to meet up with a chick at 8:00pm.
She agrees and asks me to pick her up at her place at that time.
When I arrived at 8:00pm she wasn't even ready.
I ended up having to wait another 25 minutes doing nothing, just waiting for her to get ready. No sex happened that night. It was a wasted date.

(2nd incident)
Another chick I set the time to meet up with her at 8:00pm
She calls me at 7:30pm and tells me she's still at the dance studio (salsa class) and can't meet up until 9:00pm.
I agree too meet up with her at 9:00pm
Then she calls me at 8:50pm and tells me she's still running behind and wants to meet up at 10:00pm.
I agree and tell her to meet me at a specific bar downtown.
I get to that bar at 10:00pm and low and behold I see her there with another friend.
She never informed me about bringing a friend to meet up with me.
That was a total waste. I left 10 minutes later.
 

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It's a sh!t test.
And a very stupid one too!
It means you are on the bottom of her priority list.

I've fallen for this trap twice in my lifetime.

(1st incident)
I set the time to meet up with a chick at 8:00pm.
She agrees and asks me to pick her up at her place at that time.
When I arrived at 8:00pm she wasn't even ready.
I ended up having to wait another 25 minutes doing nothing, just waiting for her to get ready. No sex happened that night. It was a wasted date.

(2nd incident)
Another chick I set the time to meet up with her at 8:00pm
She calls me at 7:30pm and tells me she's still at the dance studio (salsa class) and can't meet up until 9:00pm.
I agree too meet up with her at 9:00pm
Then she calls me at 8:50pm and tells me she's still running behind and wants to meet up at 10:00pm.
I agree and tell her to meet me at a specific bar downtown.
I get to that bar at 10:00pm and low and behold I see her there with another friend.
She never informed me about bringing a friend to meet up with me.
That was a total waste. I left 10 minutes later.
You dont think that's a good idea when their friend comes? I had that a couple weeks ago with the 50 yr old cougar brought her friend along.
 

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To be honest and fair, back in 2010 or maybe 2011 I had a date, and I can't remember logistics exactly, but that btch moved the date back several times. I think first it was 6 pm, then it was 8 pm, then 10 pm. Finally we meet up at 12 am, midnight, I pick her up. We get some food and I drive her to an isolated location with a nice view of the city, just like in movies and we fck.

Perhaps I was last **** standing or something similar, when every date she had before me failed to fck her. Plus I had good smv, I was from USA, there is no possible way she couldn't date me.

It's now, after 10 years, saying that I'm from USA don't work anymore, Like why the fck you moved here and why the fck you stayed here.
 

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You dont think that's a good idea when their friend comes? I had that a couple weeks ago with the 50 yr old cougar brought her friend along.
I've never been on a date in my life where a woman brought her friend(s). If I had that date would have lasted about 30 seconds.

No it's never a good idea on a first date. It means she has 0 interest in you and once they get tired of getting free drinks they will use some excuse to bounce on your ass
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm on the takeaway side. When they put up any resistance on a first date it's never good. none of the chicks who ended up being worthy for girlfriend ever f***** me around on the first date.

I d say probability your f****** is low and falling.

sometimes if you stand up to them you can reactivate their interests and sometimes they are just pure b1tches and pvssy ain't worth that
 
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