"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Damnit, I met really interesting girl, The catch, she has a boyfriend

Latinoman

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Rarely is a waste of time to "sarge" a woman with a boyfriend as most "quality" "hot" women will have a boyfriend. And it is a nature of most women to dump their "boyfriend" once she finds a better one. Call it branch swing.

Now...if she cheats on her boyfriend (e.g. does not branch swing)...that's bad.
If she is married or living or engaged with him...that's bad.
If her boyfriend is your friend, family member, co-worker, a very good aquaintance...that's bad.

Other than that...women that a LOT of men go after...tend to have a boyfriend for the most part. How serious? That always remains to be seen.

If she does not show any interest for you...the right thing to do is move on.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Didn't read anything but the first post, but unless you know her boyfriend, go for it. I let a great opportunity slip through my fingers because I of some reason thought it was immoral to "make her cheat". Long story short, she was interested when she had a boyfriend, she lost interest when they broke up. Lesson learned.

My reply is totally off-topic if the issue is how to make her interested, though.
 
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