"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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damn i need some serious advice!~

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there was this guy that asked my girl if they could study together for the SAT test in school...my girl told me about it and i asked her what she said...she told me that she told him that she doesn't know giving him a sign that it wasn't going to happen...this guy was the same guy that my girl had told me that she thinks that like her...they both have the same class every other day 5th period so i don't really know much about what's going on...now this was i'd say was about a month ago...earlier today my girlfriend had told me that she will be busy the whole next week to study for the SAT and that we'll be talking less on the phone...i was good with that and told her it was cool...for some reason i just remembered the guy that asked her about studying together for the SAT after hanging up the phone...it's hard to explain but i can feel something fishy is going on...yesterday my girl stopped by at my place which rarely happens and gave me some donuts from her job and some chicken that she bought from KFC...then she made something on her myspace on her "about me" section saying how much she loves me and all that...there's a library near where they both live...they both live in an apartment and i don't know if i'm going crazy but i really feel like next week both of them will go there after school to study...sh!t!...of course i'm gonna be there spying and sh!t which i feel a little bad about...f*ckin onetis got me goin crazy!~
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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dont worry about it, if she cheats on you, dump her, im sure you can get another girl. also, if she cheats, then she was just a weed to begin with and you found it out this much sooner instead of years and much more money later on
 

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are you that fvcking insecure that you are going to possibly hinder your GF from getting the best possible SAT score seh can?

lol, you think if you say NO, if she really wanted this guy, she wouldn't find a way to get with him behind your back?

fi she wants him, there is nothing you can do anyway. you have no choice but to say go ahead, not only that, encourage it.. now if you don't trust her that's another issue
 

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What's to study for on SATs? It's a bunch of easy math problems, reading comprehension and memory ability tests.
 

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she told me that she wasn't going to study with him a few weeks back and if they do she will be keeping that away from me...i don't know i really really can feel something is going down and i just want to see them together sitting on one table and just break up with her right there and then...ugh!...damn man...am i seriously on drugs?...sh!t!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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because it's the one test in your life that actually has alot to do with the outcome of the rest of it. I owuld rather have someone Overstudy for it than to have someone take it not seriously and f up the rest of the ir life playing catchup
 

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i never took my SAT...well i really didn't know anything about it...i just took high school like it was nothing...maybe i did i don't know...but anyways, she told me everyone had already started studying a few weeks back...i'm with ruckus on this though...what is there to study?
 

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i never took my SAT
then

what is there to study?...well i really didn't know anything about it

You didn't have to tell me you never took your SAT.. I can kinda figure that out.

And this coming from someone who didn't even go to college. I took my SAT and got a good enough score where if I had the OPTION to go to college. You want your GF to have that option don't you?

my gosh guys THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK

regardless if it's easy or not (and it's not that hard), IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT TEST MOST PEOPLE WILL TAKE IN THEIR LIFES!!! it determines what tier college you can get into (if any), if you can get financial aid or not, so many things, and you are fvcking it up for her becuase of your pissy poor high school relationship. I ought to come through this damn pc screen and slap you for thinking the way you are.

just because the test wasn't important to you, your insecurities shoudln't deprive her of a FUTURE. This ranks up there iwth the guy last week who didn't want his GF to go to prom because he was "lonely" and he was 22 and she was 17...

****, if you love her, you should be helping her. I don't like dumb women and women working at Best buy when they are 30
 

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vagrant said:
there was this guy that asked my girl if they could study together for the SAT test in school...my girl told me about it and i asked her what she said...she told me that she told him that she doesn't know giving him a sign that it wasn't going to happen...this guy was the same guy that my girl had told me that she thinks that like her...they both have the same class every other day 5th period so i don't really know much about what's going on...now this was i'd say was about a month ago...earlier today my girlfriend had told me that she will be busy the whole next week to study for the SAT and that we'll be talking less on the phone...i was good with that and told her it was cool...for some reason i just remembered the guy that asked her about studying together for the SAT after hanging up the phone...it's hard to explain but i can feel something fishy is going on...yesterday my girl stopped by at my place which rarely happens and gave me some donuts from her job and some chicken that she bought from KFC...then she made something on her myspace on her "about me" section saying how much she loves me and all that...there's a library near where they both live...they both live in an apartment and i don't know if i'm going crazy but i really feel like next week both of them will go there after school to study...sh!t!...of course i'm gonna be there spying and sh!t which i feel a little bad about...f*ckin onetis got me goin crazy!~
You tell her "Okay, go study but since i wont be talking to you that much, i'll be going out with some friends" <~~~ Watch her change her F--Kin Tune.

During that WHOLE week, dont call her nor answer her phone calls. You will then see how much "time" she has. I hate when girls come up with Bull****.

it's hard to explain but i can feel something fishy is going on
Dude its not hard to explain, Ive been in your shoes and i know EXACTLY how you feel. In my experience, That feeling usually is right.
Please, please please take my advice on this.. If you find out or catch her in a lie, and she DID study with that guy that she said she wasnt. You MUST! MUST! break free from her. It wont be easy but think about it this way. She lied to you, she betryed you, When behind your back. I really feel that women try to see what they can get away with by either being sneaky or bring up excuses to justify their actions.
 
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Most likely she would have never told you in the first place if she wanted to "cheat" - but sometimes they cover their tracks. Don't sweat it and don't follow her around like a puppy! Nothing is going to happen at the library in public view.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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and you are fvcking it up for her becuase of your pissy poor high school relationship. I ought to come through this damn pc screen and slap you for thinking the way you are.
No, he's not f*cking it up for her. If she's going to start sexing this guy during the middle of their study session, not much learning will get done anyway. By being paranoid, he may actually be helping her education. You don't need a partner to study for that test, either.

All that said, chill out, vagrant.
 

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I think you should drop her, she sounds unfaithful. She's probably the type of girl that watches TV and doesn't turn it off when guys are on the screen. I'll bet she even has a few classes with a male teacher... how dare she.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Nothing is going to happen at the library in public view.
Alot can happen. She can become attracted to this guy just by hanging around him if he knows what hes doing.
 

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We guys have it programmed in us to sense if something fishy is going on with our women. If you have the gut feeling you are most certainly right on it.

Don't snoop around behing her back. Its not necessary.. look out for other signs will tell you if she is being a s!ut.

Play cool. don't let her know yer desperate for her. If she is a REAL woman and respects you ( i doubt she can at that age) she will do ANYTHING to make you feel at peace.

Chill bro. If she cheats, you've won! (you have gotten rid of a rotten woman.)
 

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By her coming over and bringing something to your place (i.e. food and such), she is already feeling guilty about her intentions to study with this guy.

This is good yet very bad. She is attracted to him and trying to thwart her own advances to him by appeasing you, and thus guaging how into her you are.

In other words she is trying to curb what she knows deep in her mind may occur, and that is cheating on you. By posting the 'I love him (about you) etc.' on the MySpace site is another indicator.

She already feels guilty, but it is not good because she is attracted to him. The more time spent with him and she is attracted, the less attracted to you she becomes and BAM! 'I just need some space'.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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i really need to spy on her and get it over with...earlier this night i brought the situation up...this is how it went...

me: so i guess you're gonna be busy the whole next week
her: yeah
me: what was that thing you need to take?...SAT?
her: yup...and i really need to study...i mean like hardcore
me: i see...well good luck on it
her: uhhh...ummm...
me: hey
her: yeah
me: you sleeping on me again?
her: no i was up...what are you talking about?
me: nothing...i just told you good luck on your SAT

she didn't say THANKS!!!...?!?!?!?!?!...damn it!...i can really feel it's almost the end for us!
 

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Vagrant, do not spy, she will find out. It is an AFC thing to do.

You need to put your foot down and be the man in the relationship. Tell her that studying with this guy is out of the question.

Sit down with her and say that you have been attracted to other girls but have not acted on anything because of your vested interest in her.

This will get her to admit she was attracted to him yet stay with you because you put your foot down and showed you cared and are a man.
 

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that's why i want to spy on her cuz i really really feel something is going down and i want to end it right there and then!~
Honestly, Vagrant.. I understand what your feeling. You just wanna find out whats going out before making any decisions about your relationship. Thats understandable but snooping around might just lead to heartbreak anyway. It's funny because every guy that has questions or problems like this, I have been there and i have learned the HARD way. Why should she wanna study with this guy anyway? She can study alone. Oh what, she HAS! to study with him? I assume your young and there are so many girls out there. Girls will try to string you like a puppet as long as they can but your cant string a puppet with no strings. You let her know they you dont like her studying with this guy and if she goes against what you say.. then thats your answer right there.
 

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you were right though...she had been attracted to him...and that's exactly how i felt too...why would she bring me those stuff when sometimes i would tell her to come over to my place and she wouldn't cuz she had to go home cuz of her parents...plus when she gave the food to me she was in a hurry...i'm thinking she feels guilty too that's why she's been acting that way...maybe she just couldn't turn the offer down from the guy since they were in the same class and she doesn't want me to know...idk...ugh!~
 

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vagrant said:
i really need to spy on her and get it over with...earlier this night i brought the situation up...this is how it went...

me: so i guess you're gonna be busy the whole next week
her: yeah
me: what was that thing you need to take?...SAT?
her: yup...and i really need to study...i mean like hardcore
me: i see...well good luck on it
her: uhhh...ummm...
me: hey
her: yeah
me: you sleeping on me again?
her: no i was up...what are you talking about?
me: nothing...i just told you good luck on your SAT

she didn't say THANKS!!!...?!?!?!?!?!...damn it!...i can really feel it's almost the end for us!
EVERYONE Start CLAPPING for VAGRANT!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Be Glad it might be over. She is not ever girl out there and i will bet $1 Trillion Dollars there is a girl out there ALOT HOTTER, ALOT SEXIER and with ALOT BETTER PERSONALITY than what you have now. TRUST! ME!! this is a good thing. Dont call her anymore. she is playing games and acting stupid.

She is probably thinking hmm... ill hold on to Vagrant until something happens with this guy. Until then ill hold out.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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