Damaged Broken Woman Really Are The Best..

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I haven't read all of the posts on this threads, but here is my opinion.

Disregarding specifically sexual abuse, I feel that broken women in general are just better off being avoided by decent good men all together. I've noticed that women over the years who dress provocatively or behave in a manner to garner a lot of attention from men generally have a ton of issues, where the roots of these issues lie I have no idea.

However, I think the one common variable I have noticed is that all of these women grew up in unstable home environments, often times with an absent father figure. I think these women learned through their teenage years that in order to get the attention from men, which they didn't get growing up, they resort to doing anything to acquire validation. I've known of women who would flirt with tons of men whenever they could, in some instances to an inappropriate degree. Their lives literally revolved around the amount of attention they could get from men.

I used to hate women like this and felt they did all of this intentionally to mess with guys, but now I honestly just feel sorry for them. THe only thing we can do is learn how to identify these women early on and avoid them all together. Women like this cannot be fixed and instead you should opt to find a more healthy and well adjusted female to bring into your life.
 

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Something valuable I learned studying psychology that really made me understand why Cluster B's are so dangerous. Is that addiction can be treated & healed. But conditioning is far more dangerous as it embeds so deep in the brain that fully healing from it is almost impossible.

Conditioning that creates trauma bonding to the abuser is why women keep going back time after time. Even if the abuser leaves them it's that conditioning through loving bombing, putting them on a pedestal, lies, manipulation, gas-lighting and abuse that makes them only want them. These women cannot break the bond even at the cost of their own family or children. I've seen this happen a few times in my life with women I personally knew and never truly understood why the women stay.

Fast forward years later I'm seeing the same thing happen to men now. While it's not physical abuse towards the man from these cluster b women, its their manipulation tactics that cause the mind extreme confusion which in turn slowly makes them become addicted to the push n pull emotional abuse. Another by product is you become addicted to the emotional abuse without even knowing why. The constant breaking up and make up sex becomes as addicting as heroin. These women use sex as their #1 weapon to trap the men in their web of chaos.

All those tactics embed so deep into the brain. When a Cluster B women dumps you like a bag of trash, or you dump her, you still yearn for her no matter how much you try to fight it. Yes, the sex was good, but what most fail to realize is all her conditioning towards you in the beginning are what created that amazing sex, not the sex itself. You get little dopamine rushes from all her bad behavior, but one doesn't even realize it. Slowly creating the trap through mind control. Thus you become addicted to her like a drug, you think about her, you want to reach out, you want the sex again, you want what you had in the beginning. Even if you're strong enough to never go back, she's embedded so deep in your mind that you will have flashbacks of her. Sometimes you even think you could go back and be in control of her. No matter what, she has left a permanent place embed deep in your brain.

Same reason why social media is very dangerous as it uses conditioning & addiction to slowly trap you so you become dependent on it for validation & dopamine feedback loops. Facebook & Instagram use psychopathy in their programming in similar ways as Cluster B's. Ex engineers of both platforms even regret creating this type programming as they admitted it destroys humanity. Since the launch of Facebook teen suicide is up 30%. Look at the all men across the globe killing themselves over these types of damaged women. I had a couple members here pm me telling me they're suicidal of a BPD or Narc relationship and need help. One guy even called me with a knife to his wrist crying.

This type of conditioning & mind control flat out makes people kill themselves, causes PTSD, extreme depression, confusion, ect. Being there is so many single moms out there these days it will only create a huge off spring of Cluster B women. One reason being no father in the picture or limited exposure to a male figure during their childhood. Men are becoming more feminine than ever. Between social media & Cluster B individuals on the rise, there is going to be a big spike in suicide & mental illness in the coming years.


Sorry not sorry for the long rant
Nail on the head..

I can totally vouch for this.

When my two year LTR came to a sudden end recently.. Out of the blue dumping by her, possibile monkey branch.

I was upset for around 3 weeks, after that I stopped giving fuks, and wasn't hardly phased with the breakup.

And now.. 3-4 months with that damaged cluster B chick? After I dumped her, my head was in a fukin spin for weeks.. I mean felt like some addictive fukin drug had entered into my body & soul.. Lol

Only when the fog clears, do you realise what a calamity you just dodged.

Now imagine 2-3 years with one of these sloots... Mate you would be driven close to suicide.. No doubt
 

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Now imagine 2-3 years with one of these sloots... Mate you would be driven close to suicide.. No doubt
Yes, suicide by a man too long in the Cluster B fog is often mentioned, but what happens just as often is that Fog makes him careless by blocking his usual sane thought processes, for example he drinks excessively over his usual limit once and dies in an auto accident, etc…
 

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Well yeah when you list those 3, there would be no need to eject. It would be an automatic next with those red flags.

Ignoring red flags in the beginning will cost you plenty down the road.
The kinky sex she's constantly giving you is to manipulate n trick your mind into brushing off those red flags. It's like stepping in a pit of quick sand. Each red flag you ignore, the further you sink. If you don't escape in time you eventually sink to the bottom while losing yourself in the process. When you get to that point some end up losing a piece of themselves. You then end up gong to war with yourself trying to get it back.


Yes, suicide by a man too long in the Cluster B fog is often mentioned, but what happens just as often is that Fog makes him careless by blocking his usual sane thought processes, for example he drinks excessively over his usual limit once and dies in an auto accident, etc…
Well said. That is something that is overlooked and not talked about enough. I've seen a lot of men pick up addictions after being discarded by a Cluster B in order to cope with the pain. The fog causes them to become very careless in those addictions. When you've been through it, studied it, listened to tons of stories, you end up being able to recognize these types like having a radar.

One man in particular that caught my attention was Mack Miller. Ariana Grande is an obvious Cluster B. After she dumped him he went back to his drug addiction to cope with the pain. The fog caused him to get careless with the drugs he was using and it ultimately took his life. I'm not saying I'm right with that assumption, but I've witnessed a lot of the same scenarios.
 

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Yep, substituting one addiction for another @stovepipe. I knew a guy that missed the hot sex so much after her marriage cheat and dump he carelessly banged a low class skank raw and ended up with HIV…
 

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Yep, substituting one addiction for another @stovepipe. I knew a guy that missed the hot sex so much after her marriage cheat and dump he carelessly banged a low class skank raw and ended up with HIV…
Holy chit! That hot sex will drive a man insane! I know first hand what it feels like and how dangerous we can make a life changing mistake acting on addiction n emotion. You get these rushes of just not giving single fuk about anything, not even your life. You either come out of these types of relationships a brainwashed zombie or a soldier of war.
 

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Holy chit! That hot sex will drive a man insane! I know first hand what it feels like and how dangerous we can make a life changing mistake acting on addiction n emotion. You get these rushes of just not giving single fuk about anything, not even your life. You either come out of these types of relationships a brainwashed zombie or a soldier of war.
Yes, and it’s not just a coincidence that specialists say these women can leave trails of damage in their wake.
 

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Almost 2 years. I'm inclined to think it's only powerful if you sink too much time into it.
This is the perfect example.. You THOUGHT you could keep on banging with no FEELS..

You thought you could handle the situation.. But attractive woman and kinky sex is very powerfull..

Its only a matter of time you will catch FEELS.

This is why you should have an exit stratedgy in place and a strict time limit to drop her, when you realise how broken or damaged she is.

She cant indefiniatly bang these woman, without paying a price.

How long was you seeing This chick for?

Luckily I got rid of mine, within 4 months.
almost 2 years, it's an interesting restructuring for me but i'm going balls to the wall lol.
it's not powerful unless i give it power. if i had simply focused on myself and not put her pvssy above personal growth and passionate pursuits i'd be fine. she would either respect my pursuits or i'd feel natural aversion to her trying to slow me down. no need to set a date, just setting boundaries and holding ground. but hey it happens to most guys. it's a great lesson.


@stovepipe it's an interesting concept but who am i to diagnose a women. my ex exhibited all those signs, but also some cluster c signs. we can make up whatever story we want. you make an eerie amount of sense, but it's easy to pick people apart. i find it more interesting to wonder what made me pick her. why didn't i act on my aversion? why did i ignore the red flags? my own limited self respect was projecting into my reality, otherwise she would have been dismissed as quick as she arrived. i learned some about women but i learned the most about myself.

If one simply adheres to these words, then women problems become nonexistent. It's no coincidence that women with the most red flags will attempt to disrespect you the quickest and most often, as if they cannot respect themselves, then how can they respect you?

Even women who respect themselves without proper male role models might attempt to disrespect you as they were not guided properly in how to behave or respond to strong male guidance, and so they revolt (internally) under the guise of self-respect, when it is really their fear of being vulnerable manifesting.
i agree completely. when i peeled her layers back she was a very sad and fragile person. she would be extremely emotional and cry at everything. i would constantly coddle her. eventually i realized she wasn't respecting herself and that nothing i did could fill that hole for her because she was supposed to have filled it herself long ago. that strong male guidance is what i was at the beginning, but i see the key to sustaining it as what i said before, lovingly holding firm on boundaries even if that means walking to teach a lesson.

because a normal healthy relationship doesn't bring the drama, the emotional push pull, the feelings, the highs and lows, that relationships with broken people bring.

With broken people you get ugly drama but the payoff of makeup everything - the reinforcement of "YES, I want you" that's called 'worth validation' we ll crave worth validation. when you're dealing with normal ppl there's also worth validation going on, but it's not done after catastrophic lows, it's done with consistency, because normal people are consistent, flat, reliable, etc
you're absolutely right. that dramatic push pull becomes kind of addictive. an unhealthy addiction to an unhealthy habit. i think part of me thinks this drama is the spice of life, that i'm missing out by not being a part of it, but that just sounds like some sort of insecurity based on external validation. when i live it it's obvious that nothing can really be built on it. the foundation is never firm enough for something to grow because at least one partner isn't willing to work together and craves drama good or bad at any expense.

@sangheilios the really unsettling thing is some of them don't even realize they're doing this. the dysfunction is what they think a normal relationship is because that's what they grew up with. anything else seems foreign and wrong. beneath it all they're extremely fragile but somehow feed off their own self neglect and drown themselves in their drug of choice until they delude themselves into a false sense of security. once they see that some people fall for the front it only encourages them to continue, they think they're doing something right.

The kinky sex she's constantly giving you is to manipulate n trick your mind into brushing off those red flags. It's like stepping in a pit of quick sand. Each red flag you ignore, the further you sink. If you don't escape in time you eventually sink to the bottom while losing yourself in the process. When you get to that point some end up losing a piece of themselves. You then end up gong to war with yourself trying to get it back.
wouldn't some say that sex on the first date and massive love bombing is a red flag? yet that's what 9-10 guys get from a girl a few points lower. that first day lay could just be infatuation and desire. i know what you're saying. even if you put off beta throws or otherwise pretend to go along with her infatuation you have to be extremely careful not to fall for your own theatrics. i think that's what happens with some women and i've experienced it with my own behavior as well. it's freaky how quickly the mind is willing to believe a story and identify with it, how quickly it forgets that YOU made the story up to begin with.
 

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Yep, substituting one addiction for another @stovepipe. I knew a guy that missed the hot sex so much after her marriage cheat and dump he carelessly banged a low class skank raw and ended up with HIV…
there is something to say about this... a woman that encourages recklessness and pushes you to abuse her is setting a trap. she may even be doing this subconsciously because she simply feels the most pleasure when she's being dominated and degraded in such a primal fashion. sometimes i feel like doing this relentlessly because it's extremely enjoyable in the moment in a very juvenile perverse way. but experience has taught me that kinky stuff is meant to be built on a foundation of trust and in baby steps. the reason being that extremely kinky acts can have very traumatic and long lasting effects when not respected for their power. if there's no sense of underlying connection and overall control(in kink everything is called a 'scene' to drive this point home and generally the dom is orchestrating things) then it's just two people diminishing themselves and getting off to it. it's an extremely unhealthy, toxic, short sighted, and unsustainable sexual perversion. it may feel good in the moment but then reality sets in and there's tons of doubt, guilt, resentment, uncertainty, shame, trauma, etc on both sides.

in a healthy kink encounter steps are taken to mitigate any chance of trauma. safe words, community, prior agreements or good communication, after care, honesty, the reinforcement that this is a 'scene' and something done for fun and with a positive goal, not to damage your psyche. a healthy approach to what most would consider vile acts is actually done by building a relationship with virtues. anything else will implode when resentment or shame or whatever neglected feedback finally bubbles to the surface(i.e. porn star freak outs, women/men falling into and out of the kink community quickly). this is why the kink community members that last tend to be ones that are kind of nerdy, reserved, and very good natured. they have their ducks in a row and respect themselves so they naturally respect others and manifest that in their play. they're honest and know how to communicate what they want. this in turn makes them reliable and resilient. the ones that last are not massive skanks that carry disease and neglect themselves and attempt to manipulate or gaslight or love bomb. those tend to crash and burn regardless of the environment.

the biggest issue i see is that when someone goes about kink the wrong way they start a narrative in their mind that can lead to dark and deadly places. just like what you mention, catching HIV or like others have mentioned, committing suicide. if you understand that something feels wrong but one of these confused skanks tries to get you to dominate her without understanding the delicacy of the situation it can make things MUCH worse for both of you. if you go along with it you may resent her for being disrespectful or feel you're doing something wrong/against your will. if you act upon this resentment in a negative abusive way you'll compound the problem because she will actively encourage you with orgasms and such, giving you positive feedback into a detrimental state of mind. you'll begin to think kink is meant to be toxic and chaotic, full of abuse and hurt and selfish stupidity. you'll diminish yourself into a piece of shiit. on the other hand if you hesitate then out of ignorance one of these skanks will make you feel inadequate or attempt to directly diminish you as opposed to indirectly with orgasms. either road can lead to diminishing life conditions and even suicide for either of you. it's self destructive af.

the common theme is confusion. know yourself, own yourself, then seek a fun partner. if she constantly neglects herself and you can not inspire her and educate her, if she's unwilling to cooperate or be honest and open, then you simply can not diminish yourself by continuing to sink time and attention into her. if you don't know the power of kink then either read up on it or life will teach you directly with pain and suffering.

it boils down to the same themes mentioned here. maintaining frame, boundaries, clear communication, and disengaging when bad behavior persists. kink is an extension and amplification of all the same principles. it tests you more and the play is more rewarding.
 

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Yes, and it’s not just a coincidence that specialists say these women can leave trails of damage in their wake.
This board is a good representation of the PTSD they leave behind
 

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I disagree with this. If you were a leader of a social circle that has hot women in it, they will naturally compete for your attention. You will automatically create space because you don’t want to be smothered.

The king shows up. And the women fill in the void. All he does is qualify and disqualify. Molds women’s behavior to his liking. They all supplicate to him because they don’t want to be ostracized from the tribe. He has absolute authority.

Because of his power and abundance, he no longer has any interest in petty romance. It is literally impossible to be the leader of the tribe and still feel like you need or even want to seduce women. The only feeling that exists is cashing in on the spoils of victory.

Women are actually the spoils of victory. They are not some kind goal or target. They are a byproduct of successfully becoming a leader of a social tribe/environment that has women in it.

That’s why it’s often said women are secondary. Taking over your environment is primary. It is your nature. It’s in your DNA to dominate.

Does it all make sense now? Am I speaking directly to your DNA?

The reason why 99% of guys on this forum do not know this is because they have never taken over a social environment that has hot women in it.

They don’t know the natural order of things. They don’t know that men are the conquerors and women are the seducers.

You stand by seduction because you failed to dominate an environment that has women in it. If you did that, the women would seduce you. Not the other way around.

You think nature made a mistake? You think men don’t have what it takes to naturally attract women and polarize them?

We were all born with it. It’s just that 99% of guys think their potential is a Great deal lesser than what it really is.

You were born to dominate and become kings. Not figure out the whims of women.

The king basks in validation and sexual tension that’s built in given his position as tribal leader. He doesn’t seduce. He doesn’t have to.

I’m talking about Being. You guys are talking about Doing the right things. One is infinitely more powerful than the other. One is a natural and the other has to learn calibration. But in the end, he is still merely a button pusher.

Doingness must come from Beingness, otherwise it has no real power.

The single absolute Being is where the power is at. One day more people will understand this.

If you do nothing else but walk around with the frame of a “wise King” who’s purpose is the betterment of others around him, your whole life would change.

Walking down the street, people would get out of your way as if you were parting the Red Sea. Random women would supplicate to you. High status people would talk to you as if you are their equal.

Walk around with this frame long enough and it would be completely embedded into your entire being. And you would no longer know what seduction is.

All of your actions will come from a powerful place of beingness.

What I am talking about, few will grok. But for those who see the pearl of wisdom, take it and never look back.


I love when guys have a theory on getting baaaaae when having never seen a vagina before..

Wait wut!?
 

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I love when guys have a theory on getting baaaaae when having never seen a vagina before..

Wait wut!?
That's pretty rich coming from a guy who learned everything from "theory" created by former geeks who couldn't hack it in the real world so they decided to create alter egos as "PUA's".

LOL.
 

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That's pretty rich coming from a guy who learned everything from "theory" created by former geeks who couldn't hack it in the real world so they decided to create alter egos as "PUA's".

LOL.
Again, never seen a vagina before bud & Has a opinion.

 

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Again, never seen a vagina before bud & Has a opinion.

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that girls turn 14. 15, 16. 17 everyday. Or quote some pua guru. You’ve never posted any original idea of your own. You hide behind other people’s ideas because you have no real power. And you sound like a god damn parakeet.

Why would I be mad? If anything you crack me up lol.

At least I have an opinion based on real life experience. All you have is manosphere catch phrases created by former high school geeks turned “pua gurus” lmao.

You’re a joke deeznuts. Post an original thought. I dare you. And I’ll pick it apart. But I doubt you are capable of this.
 

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Push/Pull is even more effective on guys than on women especially these days. More scarcity = more tolerance. Dating someone doing it to me and I can consciously see myself getting hooked because of it, luckily the pull on her end isn't terribly strong bc not too high interest.
 
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Push/Pull is even more effective on guys than on women especially these days. More scarcity = more tolerance. Dating someone doing it to me and I can consciously see myself getting hooked because of it, luckily the pull on her end isn't terribly strong bc not too high interest.

Those who have the most options, generaly hold the power and care less.
 
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