"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I wanna bulk up ALOT, because right now i am very skinny. at 15 i am 5'2 90 some odd lbs. I am short and skinny but i do have natural good looks...but what i really want to put on weight and get swoll.

thing is i am very lazy, and forgetfull and the nutrients and all that are very hard work, and it confuses me. i tried just eating alot and working out but i keep forgetting when to work out and dont know if it is enough and coming up with excuses (to myself) i now have some small weights (Hand held) and would REALLY like to get down and stop bulls******g. PLEASE HELP b-cuz im tired of girls callin me "shorty" and "skinny" and things like that it messes with my alright game.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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at 15 you sh0uld DEFINATELY not overdoe things because you are still growning you can really **** up your future muscle growth and growth spurts. im no expert but definately seek pro advice before doing things because we dont stop fully growing until 22yrs old natural things like boxing and sprinting can also improve your muscles without the risk of damaging anything
 

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you need to ignore the above advice (no one has ever stunted his growth with weightlifting, it's an old wives' tale, and if you start waiting now you'll wait forever), and go with this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=110033

also check out this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98203

Neither of these will cure laziness. Only you can fix that. And you need a real gym -- at your high school, or a friend's, or something else. You need to find big weights to bench, squat, and deadlift with.

You need to start slow and practice the form for these big compound lifts, and recognize that most of your progress (if any) will come from eating & sleeping well, once you're lifting hard and heavy (which is much easier to get right).
 

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Duh.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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dj ben2 said:
lol personal trainers are full of **** then
Personal trainers are for middle aged fat women on atkins who want to lose 15 lbs so they can still look fat in their bathing suit on their cruise to the bahama's.

Hopefully puberty hasn't found you yet. Once it does you WILL grow. Unfortunately getting big takes a lot of persistant dedication and a fair amount of sacrifice, which isn't exactly great for those who are forgetful and lazy. Although if you want it enough than maybe you can push through your laziness and eventually have the body you want. But it wont be easy!
 

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I've got a cure for laziness. A good kick in the ass.
 

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donjuanjovi said:
Personal trainers are for middle aged fat women on atkins who want to lose 15 lbs so they can still look fat in their bathing suit on their cruise to the bahama's.

Hopefully puberty hasn't found you yet. Once it does you WILL grow. Unfortunately getting big takes a lot of persistant dedication and a fair amount of sacrifice, which isn't exactly great for those who are forgetful and lazy. Although if you want it enough than maybe you can push through your laziness and eventually have the body you want. But it wont be easy!
not so personal trainers are more for showing you correct ways to do exercises and such without injuring yourself. also im naturally big my dad is 6"2 my grandad is 6"3 theyre both built even the old timer my problem is im fat
 

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No. Personal trainers often don't include squats or deadlifts in workouts. They have you do sissy exercises and such because they "look good" and don't really cause a whole lot of muscle fatigue. Look at a personal trainer. Look at the things they make you do, look at the routines they put together. Then look at your average hardcore lifter.

Get the difference?
 

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mayb u had some bad personal trainers mine made me do squats and bench and a few other BORING ones beforei EVENTUALLY got to the ones that look good. i think u had some bad luck there lol
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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dj ben2 said:
not so personal trainers are more for showing you correct ways to do exercises and such without injuring yourself. also im naturally big my dad is 6"2 my grandad is 6"3 theyre both built even the old timer my problem is im fat
What the hell are you doing asking us for advice, then? If your old men are such fine strapping hunks of man-meat, why don't you ask them how they do / did it? You've got their genetics, why aren't you 6'5" and built? A little bit of patience and a lot of effort are probably all you need.

If you know so much about personal trainers, hire one. Let us know how that goes for ya.
 

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Throttle said:
What the hell are you doing asking us for advice, then? If your old men are such fine strapping hunks of man-meat, why don't you ask them how they do / did it? You've got their genetics, why aren't you 6'5" and built? A little bit of patience and a lot of effort are probably all you need.

If you know so much about personal trainers, hire one. Let us know how that goes for ya.
dont tell me what to do i have had a personal trainer once but their just to expensive as for my dad and grandpa i fu<king hate the ****s
 

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He wasn't telling you what to do. You know what DJ Ben, you seem very quick to jump the trigger. People try discussing things with you and you just start getting an attitude. You seem to be hell bent on "what i think is right, you're wrong", then why even ask questions if you don't want to hear peoples opinions?
 

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Throttle said:
What the hell are you doing asking us for advice, then? If your old men are such fine strapping hunks of man-meat, why don't you ask them how they do / did it? You've got their genetics, why aren't you 6'5" and built? A little bit of patience and a lot of effort are probably all you need.

If you know so much about personal trainers, hire one. Let us know how that goes for ya.
that wasnt discussion it was criticism
 

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actually, it was a series of intentionally insulting rhetorical questions. but that's nitpicking.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You should do you own research before deciding to lift or not , this is risky to leave to a buncha guys on the internet. You still have a good 6 years to grow.

One thing you can do is look at some of the people who started lifting before they were fully grown height wise, and see if their short or not.

Teenagers do go though huge growth spurts when they get physical exersice. I've exeperianced this for myself. I would reccomend track 'n' field and wrestling.
 

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Throttle said:
What the hell are you doing asking us for advice, then? If your old men are such fine strapping hunks of man-meat, why don't you ask them how they do / did it? You've got their genetics, why aren't you 6'5" and built? A little bit of patience and a lot of effort are probably all you need.

If you know so much about personal trainers, hire one. Let us know how that goes for ya.

he wasn't the one asking for advice
 

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Good way to test a personal trainer: ask em what they think about squats and deadlifts.
 

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fo sho
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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