"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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- Thread starter Smith122
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Poonstra
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Let it go. Move on. All it does is show her you are still invested. You should not be.
I told you you should improve yourself for you, so you get a better life, not for women. Once you are successful, women will want to get in on it.
I've been thai-boxing since I've been 24. Always been dry, not build tho. Never got a lot of attention. I've started doing the heavy lifts (squad, dead lift), a bit more than 2 years ago. The difference in IOI has been staggering. Lift, or you are a sub-par specimen. Check out starting strength.
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Don't engage her, if she engages you keep it short and polite, you don't want to risk your job. Move away from the conversation as soon as possible. This new behavior will puzzle her and she'll try and pull you back into her orbit. Don't let her.
Now I know it's easier said then done, but go find yourself an other woman, the sooner you do, the sooner this one loses her power over you.
Thanks for all your advice so far.
I am looking for other women but even if I get one I don’t have a crush on any others so how would that improve it.
You really think she will try and pull me back, I think she will just carry on ignoring me.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Poonstra
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Even better. This will let you move on.
Now, I think I've said all I can about this, you know what to do.
I recommend you read the basics, the DJ-bible and the Book of Pook, if you want to learn about women and grow as a man, these are not optional. Keep comming back to this forum. Start hitting the gym. Best of luck Smith122.