"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I get a lot of initial attraction online but always screw up what should have been an easy number conversion. I'm not seeing why.

So I thought I'd create a thread where we can all help each other improve our message game. This is for completed conversations with women online whether you converted the number or not. Do not post any"what do I say next?" questions.

Grade the persons interaction and then give the reason why. The point is to give pointers on how the number could've been gotten sooner or where they screwed up and what they could have said instead. Maybe he did fine and she was just a flake.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I will go first:

Me-Nice pics and like your profile. You should take me out sometime ;)

Her-Lol that was sweet! Sure thing

Me - I like that! I gotta make sure we're compatible first.
Are you a texter or phoner?
Would rather have sex or your fav dessert?

Her- Phone sex!

Me - I only do phone sex if you're too far for the real thing. Going to bed horny sucks! Where are you?

Her - Lol I meant I rather the phone over text and I rather sex over dessert lol but no phone sex

Next day:
Me - Good Afternoon Luvely. We're moving way too fast. We're talking about s & d (sex & dessert) without even know your name. Let's slow it down speedster. Send me your number. Ill send you a nice text and we'll take it from there.

I never heard back again. I guess I screwed up the last message? IDK...what I have done better?
 
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I just posted about how to kill it online with a step by step process I follow(like a cookie cutter almost), in this thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=220740 and this thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=220733

I've gotten 50+ numbers in the past 6 weeks or so, 15 in the last 2 or 3 days...

Stop with the sex talk right of the bat...you come off as desperate. Just act normal. Trust me. Normal online sets you apart from 90% of the guys. In a good way.

And your messages come across as way too "try hard"...again...just act normal.
 
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