"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Just wanna know if anyone in the forum has any sugar mama. Or being with one. Did you game change towards them?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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LOTS of gay guys go that route. very hip thing in the gay community to become an escort of sorts for wealthy single women (not the sex kind of escort). eventually the pair falls in love (yes, many gay guys do marry women) and the rest is history.

i am not calling you gay, just a very gay sort of thing to be pondering.
 

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sparky0000 said:
LOTS of gay guys go that route. very hip thing in the gay community to become an escort of sorts for wealthy single women (not the sex kind of escort). eventually the pair falls in love (yes, many gay guys do marry women) and the rest is history.

i am not calling you gay, just a very gay sort of thing to be pondering.
What's gay about finding a rich woman to marry?
 

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it is gay because it is natural for a male to want a younger girl that needs him. he wants to be a provider. younger females are also more fertile than an old broad. finally, most guys don't want a girl who has been touched (ever...lol). these things seem not to apply in america these days, but in most of the world they still do.

the reverse goes for normal girls. they want an older guy who kicks a$$. money, power, and respect. that is what they normally want. once again, this seems to have left america. most girls don't even need a guy these days in the usa.
 

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I'm kinda with sparky on this one. Its something that you would do in your early 20's to get some experience. Once your above 25, you should be a mature man and not looking to a women to support you. In that scenario, she'll always have the power and you'll be just a toy.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Intersting theory about being gay.... makes sense in a way..... could also be some messed up mother issues...... or just someone that wants an easy life and is willing to marry for a free ride through life and will most likely be a cheater.........would be hard to turn down a sugar momma I think............Either way I too am curious to hear if anyone has a sugar momma, how it effected them, and how did they aquire such a treat?
 

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The__Substitute said:
Intersting theory about being gay.... makes sense in a way..... could also be some messed up mother issues...... or just someone that wants an easy life and is willing to marry for a free ride through life and will most likely be a cheater.........would be hard to turn down a sugar momma I think............Either way I too am curious to hear if anyone has a sugar momma, how it effected them, and how did they aquire such a treat?
hmmmmm
 
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Did you not read my post or are you just mentally challenged?
Yes, I read your post. Please eloaborate on this comment Einstein........ It has only made me doubt your intellegence. Maybe you are dunk...Hopefully anyway.
 

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The__Substitute said:
Yes, I read your post. Please eloaborate on this comment Einstein........ It has only made me doubt your intellegence. Maybe you are dunk...Hopefully anyway.
Me dunk? I think you might have been drunk. Actually I was drunk and don't have a clue what I was thinking with that post either.
 
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