"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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creating my own canned game...

SELF-MASTERY

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I've been very judgemental when it comes to using canned openings, but I now feel that customized canned material would make certain approaches easier. I consider myself an observationist and I build my game upon that foundation, but there are times when I just can't build upon what a 'target' is displaying.

Below are some schitty arse openers that just came to my head. Please share some of your material.

canned shyt:

1) Hey aren't you (so and so's) cousin?
HB: no I'm not
me: We'll you look just like my friends cousins......fluff converse about friends cousin (how wild how whatever she is.....) Transition the conversation back to her, transition- to us, then go for the "kill" --attempt to instant date--

2) Pointing at the girl-- "you were at ___(venue, bar, club) last week"
HB:NO--
ME: BS fluff and use the same formula from above-- you look so much like this girl that was--- blah n blah -- use her reaction to choose the direction of the conversation.

That's all I could think of at the moment. critique.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Dude do you have trouble opening with these?
Lines like the ones you have there are quite difficult to say.

This is partly because you know they are lies , so they are hard to deliver congruently.

In any case do you really wanna be a guy who is that desperate to talk to a girl that he pretends to know her from someplace.

You can use a canned direct line if you want. That sa\ves you the drama of thinking up something to say , but doesn;t have the same 'slimy' vibe of a prepared opener.

Some guys I sarge with open with "youre cute , what's your name" but you don't have to be that direct.

There's lots of good stuff on this in Juggler's E book or in Swingcats "Art of Opening" on this but ultimately it's best to find an opener that fits your personality.
 

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I think i could use the above openers with success... I'm trying to use my openings to direct the conversation.
 

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those are dumb.. may as well be direct
 

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SELF-MASTERY said:
I think i could use the above openers with success... I'm trying to use my openings to direct the conversation.
The problem is that even if you try to customize it with a name or place, it's still the same old "I've seen you before" line that has been used by every single guy on every single girl since the time of Alcibiades. Tweaking one little aspect of it doesn't really hide that fact. They will see right through it to the fact that you just don't have anything better to say.

It's better to spend your time improving stuff that already works rather than trying to salvage stuff that doesn't (at least, not consistantly).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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First one sounds similar to horse girl opener. Should check for that yo might like it.
 
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