"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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creating my own canned game...

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I've been very judgemental when it comes to using canned openings, but I now feel that customized canned material would make certain approaches easier. I consider myself an observationist and I build my game upon that foundation, but there are times when I just can't build upon what a 'target' is displaying.

Below are some schitty arse openers that just came to my head. Please share some of your material.

canned shyt:

1) Hey aren't you (so and so's) cousin?
HB: no I'm not
me: We'll you look just like my friends cousins......fluff converse about friends cousin (how wild how whatever she is.....) Transition the conversation back to her, transition- to us, then go for the "kill" --attempt to instant date--

2) Pointing at the girl-- "you were at ___(venue, bar, club) last week"
HB:NO--
ME: BS fluff and use the same formula from above-- you look so much like this girl that was--- blah n blah -- use her reaction to choose the direction of the conversation.

That's all I could think of at the moment. critique.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Dude do you have trouble opening with these?
Lines like the ones you have there are quite difficult to say.

This is partly because you know they are lies , so they are hard to deliver congruently.

In any case do you really wanna be a guy who is that desperate to talk to a girl that he pretends to know her from someplace.

You can use a canned direct line if you want. That sa\ves you the drama of thinking up something to say , but doesn;t have the same 'slimy' vibe of a prepared opener.

Some guys I sarge with open with "youre cute , what's your name" but you don't have to be that direct.

There's lots of good stuff on this in Juggler's E book or in Swingcats "Art of Opening" on this but ultimately it's best to find an opener that fits your personality.
 

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I think i could use the above openers with success... I'm trying to use my openings to direct the conversation.
 

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those are dumb.. may as well be direct
 

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SELF-MASTERY said:
I think i could use the above openers with success... I'm trying to use my openings to direct the conversation.
The problem is that even if you try to customize it with a name or place, it's still the same old "I've seen you before" line that has been used by every single guy on every single girl since the time of Alcibiades. Tweaking one little aspect of it doesn't really hide that fact. They will see right through it to the fact that you just don't have anything better to say.

It's better to spend your time improving stuff that already works rather than trying to salvage stuff that doesn't (at least, not consistantly).
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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First one sounds similar to horse girl opener. Should check for that yo might like it.
 
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