You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
mikeyb said:If you're looking for a hooker or a low-life wh*re, it's probably the right place.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I'm sure there are some genuine, nice girls on CraigsList, but My expierience says to stay away... Most of them are looking for a quick F*ck...that's it.My Name is Nobody said:There is absolutely nothing wrong with Craigs list or meeting women online. In fact I condone it.
As long as you get the #, get the date, and get her interested, who the **** cares how it's done?
If I can use the internet to pick up women without showering and drinking a six pack with a beard on no sleep, it's OK in my book.
EricInTheHouse said:I'm sure there are some genuine, nice girls on CraigsList, but My expierience says to stay away... Most of them are looking for a quick F*ck...that's it.
Yep, happens all the time like that and truthfully(for me) online woman hunting sucks.. First you can't even see them for real until you get to be good friends with her, emails, IM, ect ect.... Checking email all the frickin tiime... Then, still, you don't know how she really is or looks until you meet for real then you get disapointed... Online is fantasy....anyone can be anybody and even for people that don't lie or act strange, they can still get cought up in the online fantasy anyways.Gamble said:this kinda reminds me when my homie met some girl on myspace, and she turned out to be ugly as f*ck, because her pics were either photoshopped, or they made her look good from certain angles...
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
EricInTheHouse said:Yep, happens all the time like that and truthfully(for me) online woman hunting sucks.. First you can't even see them for real until you get to be good friends with her, emails, IM, ect ect.... Checking email all the frickin tiime... Then, still, you don't know how she really is or looks until you meet for real then you get disapointed... Online is fantasy....anyone can be anybody and even for people that don't lie or act strange, they can still get cought up in the online fantasy anyways.
IMO online dating sucks(it's not for me).... I'd rather scope out some cute girls at the races, or around my area.. At least then you know who and what they look like and no surprises.
I do admit that whoever is succsessful in an online relationship, are truly brave, and they have my respect.
Nah, I just prefer not to get involved online anymore.... I make WAY to much commitment to an online relationship only to be disapointed or not even being able to meet at all. It's just to much of a pain for me.My Name is Nobody said:Everyone has those experiences. So you meet some girl who had a face shot and she turned out to be a tranny or a football player. So what?
Lesson learned! Be more careful next time, don't just swear it off. I have had horrible experiences with online dating and great experiences.
I am more than willing to take the bad to get to the good.
My only tip is don't ever go AFC or needy.. like "checking your email all the time", as you just said.
Maybe that's why you are failing?
EricInTheHouse said:. I make WAY to much commitment to an online relationship only to be disapointed or not even being able to meet at all. It's just to much of a pain for me.
Yeh craigslist is the personals choice for the dregs of humanity...LOLmikeyb said:If you're looking for a hooker or a low-life wh*re, it's probably the right place.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Yeh that stuff can happen any where but craigslist is definitely the slum of the internet..Francisco d'Anconia said:So far in the last six months or so here in Minnesota a woman has gotten killed by a guy who was advertising for a nanny on Craigslist; several people had been robbed by a man and a woman when they had invited each over for "a date" via Craiglist and just recently several men and women have had their identities stolen after meeting a couple off of Craiglist. Could it be Craigslist or is it just Minnesotans being gullible? I tend to believe that DonGordon's view is a happy medium.![]()
It's a long story, and I was once attracted to a girl via internet that I would never be able to meet or go any further with. It ended with disaster, and left me in a depressive state, because my life was lonely as it was before I met her.My Name is Nobody said:HUH why are you getting emotional? I just think of it as fun. It's entertainment, and if it works out, awesome! Keep your emotions out of online dating man.
^^Thats advice you should take...Mavrick said:Be very careful when taking advice. Some people are oblivious.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.