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We basically used a nuclear warhead to kill a fly and the fly is still alive. What I think we should have done is what they did in South Dakota and I believe Sweden. We should have not shut anything down and let people use their brains and free will to decide what is the best course of action in their lives. Let business owners stay open or close and let people decide whether they want to use the goods or services of those businesses. The one thing I would have done as far as the government goes is I would have called up the national guard and I would have had them set up field hospitals and staff said hospitals to help with any overflow from local hospitals in order to keep the local hospitals from being overrun.
 

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Every state and company varies somewhat, but most people do have to go back to work when their employer re opens, because their unemployment will get yanked. There are very few, if any, mandatory sick leave laws in the United states as well, so especially in low paying jobs, we will have contagious people forced into the workplace.

Therefore, introducing for an unlimited time, the McRona Burger! Or try the all new McCovid Kid's Meal!
Most states suspended the requirement to actively seek work while on unemployment during lockdown. Therefore they arent required to go back to work if they feel it is unsafe.

However, individuals who are willing and able to work are being forced into lockdown to accommodate the few...

....COVID19 only has an approximate 7.5% death rate, therefore to force the remaining 92.5% to lockdown is a form of tyranny.....
 

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We wouldn't know what Corona was if Trump wasn't running again. It's another ploy to get him out of office by blaming him for everything. Russian collusion hoax, impeachment hoax, now covid hoax, you know 3rd times a charm. I've seen enough info for me to determine this is a hoax to a degree. I've connected enough dots that this plannedemic has many outcomes entangled in the plans web.

Nurses confronting their bosses that their treatments are killing, not saving. Then those nurses get transferred to another facility or taking their patient away from them only for them to die. Dr's showing letters from their superiors that all patients who die be listed as Covid. More people than I can count whos friend or family member died of a drug overdose but hospital listed COD as Covid.

People showing their Dr visit forms who were marked for having covid when no test was even given. To people swabbing animals and fruit but marking the samples as human with names and ages that came back testing positive. Hospitals get a lot of money for having Covid patients and even more for having them on a ventilator. For example if a patient has phenomena, they get $7k, if its Phenomena with Covid they get $14k and $38k if they are put on a ventilator. So hospitals are basically pencil whipping diagnosis and intentionally killing patients so they can not only profit but some to lower their debt.

Numerous pulmonary Dr's from across the country stating they've had 99.5% survival rate using hydroxychloroquine, vitamin C, ect. Recently two Magnesium plants go up in flames which is one main ingredient for hydroxychloroquine. All the videos that state all this stuff are being censored on YT, FB and Google. Having to wear masks which does nothing. All these democrats pressing for mail in voting. I can keep going with all the other stuff I've found. There is too many coincidences to not make it a hoax.

This will be like another 9/11 inside job to spread more fear, strip more of our illusionary freedom, have new BS rules/laws, new ways of doing things. Wouldn't even be surprised if airports start adding testing of some kind that you must get there hours before your flight. Would not be the least bit surprised if close to election time there will be another surprise spike of Corona to yet again hurt Trump and everyone goes into panic mode. This is not a political rant by any means, just stating the obvious.
 

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We wouldn't know what Corona was if Trump wasn't running again. It's another ploy to get him out of office by blaming him for everything. Russian collusion hoax, impeachment hoax, now covid hoax, you know 3rd times a charm. I've seen enough info for me to determine this is a hoax to a degree. I've connected enough dots that this plannedemic has many outcomes entangled in the plans web.

Nurses confronting their bosses that their treatments are killing, not saving. Then those nurses get transferred to another facility or taking their patient away from them only for them to die. Dr's showing letters from their superiors that all patients who die be listed as Covid. More people than I can count whos friend or family member died of a drug overdose but hospital listed COD as Covid.

People showing their Dr visit forms who were marked for having covid when no test was even given. To people swabbing animals and fruit but marking the samples as human with names and ages that came back testing positive. Hospitals get a lot of money for having Covid patients and even more for having them on a ventilator. For example if a patient has phenomena, they get $7k, if its Phenomena with Covid they get $14k and $38k if they are put on a ventilator. So hospitals are basically pencil whipping diagnosis and intentionally killing patients so they can not only profit but some to lower their debt.

Numerous pulmonary Dr's from across the country stating they've had 99.5% survival rate using hydroxychloroquine, vitamin C, ect. Recently two Magnesium plants go up in flames which is one main ingredient for hydroxychloroquine. All the videos that state all this stuff are being censored on YT, FB and Google. Having to wear masks which does nothing. All these democrats pressing for mail in voting. I can keep going with all the other stuff I've found. There is too many coincidences to not make it a hoax.

This will be like another 9/11 inside job to spread more fear, strip more of our illusionary freedom, have new BS rules/laws, new ways of doing things. Wouldn't even be surprised if airports start adding testing of some kind that you must get there hours before your flight. Would not be the least bit surprised if close to election time there will be another surprise spike of Corona to yet again hurt Trump and everyone goes into panic mode. This is not a political rant by any means, just stating the obvious.
This is an absolutely righteous post. I salute you my man.
 

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The economic "crash" is already a lie. There is no crop failure, infrastructure collapse, war, mass crime, material shortage, or even a real mass death like from the bubonic plague. There is no technical problem. The problem is only administrative: the flow of money can't be directed properly so people can keep paying their financial costs of living. That's it. It's basically an exaggerated debt deflation.

Calling these things "crashes" and "crises" when there is none of the things I described above just shows you how much power words have over perception, and perception is reality. What these economic "crashes" and "crises" should really be called is something like "maladministration". How would people react if we talked about terms like debt deflation at all, and used words like maladministration instead of crisis when referring to the economy? Perception of reality can and would be very different with different terms and rhetoric... as I'm sure there are those who are well aware of.

It's the same thing with job shortages. In technical reality there is no shortage of work in itself, there is plenty of work to do in all kinds of blue, pink, and white collar fields... but the way we administrate that work into jobs, that's how a "shortage" is created. If a 4 hour day, 20 hour work week was instituted tomorrow, all of a sudden some would say there is a pandemic "labor shortage". But all that was changed was administrative.
I hear ya...I was just illustrating that people choose to believe one "truth" or the other, and call the other a lie or hoax.

It just goes to show, panic and irrationality exist in all forms and are fed by media consumption of all stripes.
 

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Trump winning again after everything thrown his way the last year alone is going to be that much sweeter tbh
 

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It is tyrannical to force everyone to lockdown.
I certainly agree with that.

We basically used a nuclear warhead to kill a fly and the fly is still alive.
Good analogy.

Lol at Dr. Fauci standing in the background wearing a mask today, while others talked about reopening the economy and a vaccine by the end of the year. After he was just saying a few days ago that they shouldn't open the schools this fall. Someone's going to have a field day with that.
 

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People on this site claim they are not cucks. Yet all it took was a weak little virus to have some members willing to give up all their freedoms and livelihood to the government.
I don't derive my freedoms and livelihood from the government, therefore I cannot and do not surrender them to the government.

A man who believes his freedoms are at the whim of government, or a piece of paper, has already "cucked" himself. That's the recurring theme I see in all of these threads complaining of victimhood over the shutdown. It's a man-made prison.
 

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I hope they don't ever open up the border in Canada to Americans. They are crazy and will likely wipe-out everything we have worked hard to achieve up here. Nobody takes fringe people like this seriously up here. Just a bunch of right-wing Trump supporter fanatics trying to make up some meaning out of their vain lives. Yeah, I'm free, give me COVID!!! I want the right to get infected. People died so I can have the right to get infected if I want, my hard earned freedom!!! Duh!!! Did you inject Lysol or Bleach as your Trump advised? Yeah, listen to him. He's a health expert.
 

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HA! That's a good one! You mean it is not a rant that gets deleted, because you are a Trumper. It's like Chinese internet around here, support great leader or you don't get to exist.
Not true, overzealous moderator @billtx49 deleted my post as well and it was barely political. I merely pointed out that Biden is a manchurian candidate that isn't even trying to win. And I pointed out that Breadline Bernie was also a manchurian candidate that was just playing his role as well - his role was to purposely lose so as to further the narrative that the progressive left is unelectable and therefore must fall in line with the establishment democrats. It's deja vu of 2016.

For those that aren't aware of the jargon: a manchurian candidate is controlled opposition, basically a puppet.

My post was very mildly political and it was deleted anyways. The left is constantly sipping that victimhood koolaid - it ain't just your posts being targeted by moderators.
 
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Not true, overzealous moderator @billtx49 deleted my post as well and it was barely political.
Yes, I confess that I deleted your political post. Mention the names Bernie, Biden, Trump, Democrat, and Republican in the same post, It’s Political.
As I stated in my unanswered IM to you warning you of the Political Rules violation of your post, your next violation Will result in a Ban as the posted in Anything Else Rules state.

Your next challenge besides adhering to those Rules is, no hijacking threads into the political realm, and any Forum shaming attempt of the other Mod that applied the Penalty points to your account two days ago as a result of your fore mentioned Rules violation……
 

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In the Uk we have 40,000 deaths, however no one, knows anyone who actually has this virus!
apart from some unreputable welfare claimants, who smoke richmond super kings, they always know someone who has it

Nurses are just uploading endless selfies on the internet , not quite the bubonic plague is it
 

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I admit I don't follow politics at all... but as just an observer it really seems there's so many both Trump supporters and detractors who are completely closed minded. The supporters think he walks on water and the detractors think everything is his fault.
 

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I don’t know anyone who has the virus . I lived in New York , San Francisco, London, Tokyo . No one I know has it . I’m 47 years old .Surely if it was that widespread and serious surely , I would know one parison .
 

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Are you asymptomatic, experience mild symptoms, or you just didn't catch the virus yet? Different people, from all walks of life, including children, very healthy marathon runners at a young age, all across the board are dying horribly from this virus. Sure, lots of people are asymptomatic or have few symptoms but they can pass them to healthy people who can end up dying, that's almost akin to murder.

You don't care about 1 million or 10 million lives? See your example just keeps going higher in body-count. Why did you stop at 10 million? Why not stop at 100 million or half the population, or 3/4 of the population, or how about just leave a million survivors? Where do you draw the line?
Nature at work . Are you going to save all the wildebeast from getting eaten by lions?
I do care . I care about the billions who will get affected by losing their jobs and livilihoods If this lockdown continues.
 

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Money can be made again. The dead can't be brought back.

Nevertheless, I don't have all the answers on this. Everyone seems to want to be right about it and there will be plenty of confirmation bias on both sides when it's all over (or diminished). Bottom line, there's nothing you or I can really do about it other than act in our best interests based on the information we have.
Tell that to people who work no. cruise ship, entertainment, casino , airlines etc
 
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