"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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HedoRick

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Hey guys, in my area, especially on the free sites, lots of dudes are setting up fake email accounts to catch and re-use your best openers. This is especially bad on okcupid, I created a great message, spammed it out for a few weeks, last night, at least 6 chicks said they've received the same email from other dudes... I am 6 foot 4 and considered handsome- but if the chick has seen that opener from lots of other dudes, it makes you look lame. Even if you were the one that created the opener in the first place...:down:

The only solution is a good form letter with a ps. and noticing something in her profile at the end of the message.

Hit me up with a PM and your city of residence and i'll be glad to send some form letters your way.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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HedoRick

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Hey man,

I checked my PM's and for some reason didn't get your message. I'll PM the emails to you. Anyone else feel free to hit me up to with your city of residence.

I am laid up with the flu today, so I've got time for pm'ing.
 

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I think you're being a bit paranoid man, but in either case just stop sharing your openers!
 

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There are a lot of desperate, lonely dweebs out there. That's what you're competing against on those online dating sites mostly.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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HedoRick

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Not being paranoid, it just seems like time are changing with online game. Just need to make some adjustments due to other's lack of creativity. I am still killing it on match, my guess is because okcupid is free, there is a lot more "dummy" profiles on that site.
 

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Don't use canned stuff. For me this includes pick up lines, negs, openers etc. Focus on inner game and that stuff comes naturally.
 

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I'm so glad there is no problem with that here. :crackup: Problems with sex is so sad. I had that when I first come here, but then I stuck my head out of my ass, and saw that you can get laid so easy, it's not even worth learning pick up and stuff. PUA has become just a stuff to know for your work, to psychologically convince people to give you money for your services. Women, that's the easy part, walk to them, strike a conversation, if she likes you, you getting laid. You guys are virgins in the states. :crackup:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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HedoRick said:
Not being paranoid, it just seems like time are changing with online game. Just need to make some adjustments due to other's lack of creativity. I am still killing it on match, my guess is because okcupid is free, there is a lot more "dummy" profiles on that site.
What kind of response rates are you geting through Match then? Are you still copy and pasting on there?
 

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Carpet bombing used to be the gold standard, but things are changing. It's just like anything else, adjust to the changes, or start a "nofap" thread.

Can't compare online dating to real life interactions. It is a different beast.
 

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On match I send a form letter customized to her profile. I get a 70 percent response rate. And the chicks are much hotter on that site.
 

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HedoRick said:
On match I send a form letter customized to her profile. I get a 70 percent response rate. And the chicks are much hotter on that site.
I find this hard to believe, unless you are very attractive and exclusively spamming people way under your league... in which case, I wouldn't understand the point.

I think you're over emphasizing the importantce of the initial message. The thumbnail she sees of you before she even reads your message is worth a thousand words alone. Yes, the message is important... but only once you're physically competitive with the other dudes messaging her. For example, if she's a 5 and you're a 7... great, you're probably very competitive with the other dudes messaging her. You could write, "Hi how are you?" and she'd respond 70%+ of the time. If she's a 7, and you're a 7... good luck. Not saying it isn't worth trying, but there are plenty of 8-9's messaging her and no matter what you write your response rate will be very low.
 

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I'm 6 foot 4, Caucasian, and considered handsome. Don't think it would work out the same for everyone. However, that being said, if she's seen the same email 5-6 times before you send it, it still seems weak.

This will be my last post on SS. Can't seem to help some on here, because some are not willing to open their mind to new ideas.

ONL is a skill set just like any other facet of game, and times are changing.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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