"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hey guys, in my area, especially on the free sites, lots of dudes are setting up fake email accounts to catch and re-use your best openers. This is especially bad on okcupid, I created a great message, spammed it out for a few weeks, last night, at least 6 chicks said they've received the same email from other dudes... I am 6 foot 4 and considered handsome- but if the chick has seen that opener from lots of other dudes, it makes you look lame. Even if you were the one that created the opener in the first place...:down:

The only solution is a good form letter with a ps. and noticing something in her profile at the end of the message.

Hit me up with a PM and your city of residence and i'll be glad to send some form letters your way.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hey man,

I checked my PM's and for some reason didn't get your message. I'll PM the emails to you. Anyone else feel free to hit me up to with your city of residence.

I am laid up with the flu today, so I've got time for pm'ing.
 

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I think you're being a bit paranoid man, but in either case just stop sharing your openers!
 

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There are a lot of desperate, lonely dweebs out there. That's what you're competing against on those online dating sites mostly.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Not being paranoid, it just seems like time are changing with online game. Just need to make some adjustments due to other's lack of creativity. I am still killing it on match, my guess is because okcupid is free, there is a lot more "dummy" profiles on that site.
 

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Don't use canned stuff. For me this includes pick up lines, negs, openers etc. Focus on inner game and that stuff comes naturally.
 

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I'm so glad there is no problem with that here. :crackup: Problems with sex is so sad. I had that when I first come here, but then I stuck my head out of my ass, and saw that you can get laid so easy, it's not even worth learning pick up and stuff. PUA has become just a stuff to know for your work, to psychologically convince people to give you money for your services. Women, that's the easy part, walk to them, strike a conversation, if she likes you, you getting laid. You guys are virgins in the states. :crackup:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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HedoRick said:
Not being paranoid, it just seems like time are changing with online game. Just need to make some adjustments due to other's lack of creativity. I am still killing it on match, my guess is because okcupid is free, there is a lot more "dummy" profiles on that site.
What kind of response rates are you geting through Match then? Are you still copy and pasting on there?
 

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Carpet bombing used to be the gold standard, but things are changing. It's just like anything else, adjust to the changes, or start a "nofap" thread.

Can't compare online dating to real life interactions. It is a different beast.
 

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On match I send a form letter customized to her profile. I get a 70 percent response rate. And the chicks are much hotter on that site.
 

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HedoRick said:
On match I send a form letter customized to her profile. I get a 70 percent response rate. And the chicks are much hotter on that site.
I find this hard to believe, unless you are very attractive and exclusively spamming people way under your league... in which case, I wouldn't understand the point.

I think you're over emphasizing the importantce of the initial message. The thumbnail she sees of you before she even reads your message is worth a thousand words alone. Yes, the message is important... but only once you're physically competitive with the other dudes messaging her. For example, if she's a 5 and you're a 7... great, you're probably very competitive with the other dudes messaging her. You could write, "Hi how are you?" and she'd respond 70%+ of the time. If she's a 7, and you're a 7... good luck. Not saying it isn't worth trying, but there are plenty of 8-9's messaging her and no matter what you write your response rate will be very low.
 

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I'm 6 foot 4, Caucasian, and considered handsome. Don't think it would work out the same for everyone. However, that being said, if she's seen the same email 5-6 times before you send it, it still seems weak.

This will be my last post on SS. Can't seem to help some on here, because some are not willing to open their mind to new ideas.

ONL is a skill set just like any other facet of game, and times are changing.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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