"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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TheFlyingMan

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Guys I can't find material or author that is sorta good for this...

I'm having no problems approaching, establishing higher value, etc. I have conversations, I throw in a bit of C+F...but what's next?

How do I go about actually building attraction, turning her into some girl that dreams about me all the time? C+F makes me fun to be with, makes her curious about me, I do a few palm readings, face readings etc, again it just sort of makes me the entertainer.

How do I bridge this? How do I turn her initial interest - I've stood out amongst all the other guys - how do I turn her into A) a possible LTR if I like her B) a lay?

Seems that a lot of methods just sort of jump from this stuff into the lay. But I don't feel like it's ready. This is more for a situation where we're at a party or at a social gathering.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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AudiTy

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IMO Juggler is your man for conversation skills.

-AudiTy =o
 

Tomatoes

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If you have the convo sussed....You can build a good rapport with her.

The is 2 things you need to keep in mind:

1) Stay out that icky friendzone. Dont build the "wrong" kind of relationship.

2) KINO KINO KINO. This is the perfect bridge.....Kino is a must if you want to f close the girl. You have starterd that with the palm readings. Brushing the palm side of her hand is an early form of kino. Kiss close is also vital at early stage.




Note: I dont know if you ment to put LTR first or if its just me reading it wrong but you shud always get a shag before you commit. You have to know you getting it good.
 

Distant Light

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If you want her chasing and all that crap you should use cat theory, and other things that get girls chasing you. After inital attraction you should be quailfying and then building some good rapport.
 

TheFlyingMan

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thanks guys!
Hmm I guess I'm not looking for ONSes, I had a few lucky ones and they didn't mean much to me. Sure I got respect from the boys but it don't mean much anymore. True though that I should get a shag b4 I commit...remember some horror stories from my AFC days...shudder...

can you give me some good examples of rapport building? I can sort of do it by accident, but it takes too long that way, what's a good example of building it real quick?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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