"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Contact after first date

yogy

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So I had a date yesterday with this girl.Everything went ok.
Now I have a question.I know that you "shouldn't" contact her for 2-3, whatever days after first date,BUT we have each others MSN id's and we are at the same time online (when she/I am at work).So how to not contact her if she can see me online.
I know that I can stay invisible or whatever,but it's like hiding from her (and it is way more AFC then just to speak with her ,right? ).
So is it that wrong to just speak to her when we see each other online (even everyday till the next date)????And if it is :confused: what should I do ?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Duke

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No it's not like hiding. She'll never know when you are actually there or not.

Talking to her everyday will decrease some of that mystery and excitement that will carry you through your next date.

So if you want to mess it up, go ahead.
 

yogy

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She'll never know when you are actually there or not.
The thing is that I'll know that I am hiding from some girl to seem like the ultimate "ALPHA" and have lot of stuff to do :cheer: ....
 

CORVETTE06

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dont go onto msn. use a different name.

rite now ur in a lose lose situation

i dont trade screen names

if u hide from her, its creepy

if u talk to her, you lose value and become one of her girlfriends
 

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yogy said:
So how to not contact her if she can see me online.
I know that I can stay invisible or whatever,but it's like hiding from her (and it is way more AFC then just to speak with her ,right? ).
So is it that wrong to just speak to her when we see each other online (even everyday till the next date)????And if it is :confused: what should I do ?
Am I missing something here?? Just don't contact her for a few days! What's so hard about that?

Just because you have her MSN handle doesn't mean you need to speak with her on it.

If she does initiate a conversation with you, then apparently the date went over well. If you don't hear from her no sweat, just contact her in two or three days, whatever.

No need to hide from her, it makes you look like even more of a challenge if your online and not speaking to her. What's so hard about that?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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yogy

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Just because you have her MSN handle doesn't mean you need to speak with her on it.

If she does initiate a conversation with you, then apparently the date went over well. If you don't hear from her no sweat, just contact her in two or three days, whatever.
That what I was thinking too,but just wanted some opinion. :kick:
 

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yogy said:
So I had a date yesterday with this girl.Everything went ok.
Now I have a question.I know that you "shouldn't" contact her for 2-3, whatever days after first date,BUT we have each others MSN id's and we are at the same time online (when she/I am at work).So how to not contact her if she can see me online.
I know that I can stay invisible or whatever,but it's like hiding from her (and it is way more AFC then just to speak with her ,right? ).
So is it that wrong to just speak to her when we see each other online (even everyday till the next date)????And if it is :confused: what should I do ?
Firstly using MSN there is an 'appear offline' option.

The reason they say not to make contact for a few days after is to appear like you're not needy etc. I'm not so sure this is a good idea. It may depend on how you both got on with one another.

I'd like to hear some opposing views...
 

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DjDan said:
no girl would go out with you if she didn't wanna fuck you.
Thats not always the case.. haha.
 
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