"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Constantly exhausted/tired
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
jonny football hero
Master Don Juan
diablo
Master Don Juan
Alpine
Master Don Juan
silverwex
Master Don Juan
Had a bad day today.Think im paranoid about my looks or something. i just dont know anymore.
No im not taking any medicines.
Thanks for the replies tho guys.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
I started off a bit fvcked up about the way I looked. Half my energy went on what others where thinking about me, worried I'd embarrass myself. Consequentially I'd fvck up.
Then it became a good excuse to become a semi-hermit.
I have/had a huge amount of tension build up in my muscles and spent alot of time feeling very tired.
I'm still a bit this way, however bizzarely I've made huge strides in confidence recently, I can do approaches and C&F with great panash.
Check out a thread on Avpd, this may be relevant too.
Here's some things I have banged into my brain.
There is no point in giving a sh1t what other people think of you.
The only way to make progress is social exposure with the above mindset.
Reduce physical tension through Tia Chi, Qui Gong, yoga combined with general exercise.
There was a thread a while ago on anxiety. Someone recommeded a link to The Lynden Method. I bought the stuff and it helped me alot also. In the UK they also send the CDs and give you a quick call.
It has helped people with very severe social anxiety and may help you.
I suspect feeling tired is one thing, but it's quite another to not do things in life you want to do, but are too fearful to try.
Good luck
Road Demon
Senior Don Juan
too much caffeine, ie several cups of coffee a day...
epstein barr virus? the usual cause of infectious mono?
low thyroid hormone levels?
anemic?
i work for 8 hrs ( 9:00am-12:00am then 1:30pm-6pm) and after that i feel like going' to sleep and shyt
i feel tired, i can do exercises and shyt, but mentally lazy... i drink often 2 cups of coffe a day...
does anyone know wuts up?
of course my job is usually me staring off into the comp for the day working on projects.
even with break on. i sleep till noon, sometimes 7 - 10 hrs of sleep and still get to work tired. Of course hitting the gym helps me sleep better, but when i wake up to go to work im still exhausted.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.