"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Constantly exhausted/tired

silverwex

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Anyone else here ALWAYS tired/fatigued, even during the day?

I get at least 7 hours of sleep a night and my diet is ok.

Maybe its somethiong to do with my anxiety levels?

Any help? Thanks.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Depends what you're doing in the day. Personally, if i end up doing nothing, i get more tired than i would if i had run a marathon.
 

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What medicines do you take? Zyrtec & Claritin, along with other antihistamines/decongestants can cause you to be sleepy, even if your diet and sleep patterns are normal...
 

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I suppose ive a touch of GAD (general anxiety disorder) i usually get anxious in situations people wouldnt normally. It sucks! :( Had a bad day today.

Think im paranoid about my looks or something. i just dont know anymore.

No im not taking any medicines.

Thanks for the replies tho guys.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Saw your other thread on plastic surgery and thought that might be the case.

I started off a bit fvcked up about the way I looked. Half my energy went on what others where thinking about me, worried I'd embarrass myself. Consequentially I'd fvck up.

Then it became a good excuse to become a semi-hermit.

I have/had a huge amount of tension build up in my muscles and spent alot of time feeling very tired.

I'm still a bit this way, however bizzarely I've made huge strides in confidence recently, I can do approaches and C&F with great panash.

Check out a thread on Avpd, this may be relevant too.

Here's some things I have banged into my brain.

There is no point in giving a sh1t what other people think of you.

The only way to make progress is social exposure with the above mindset.

Reduce physical tension through Tia Chi, Qui Gong, yoga combined with general exercise.

There was a thread a while ago on anxiety. Someone recommeded a link to The Lynden Method. I bought the stuff and it helped me alot also. In the UK they also send the CDs and give you a quick call.

It has helped people with very severe social anxiety and may help you.

I suspect feeling tired is one thing, but it's quite another to not do things in life you want to do, but are too fearful to try.

Good luck
 

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some potentials...

too much caffeine, ie several cups of coffee a day...
epstein barr virus? the usual cause of infectious mono?
low thyroid hormone levels?
anemic?
 

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i feel tired too

i work for 8 hrs ( 9:00am-12:00am then 1:30pm-6pm) and after that i feel like going' to sleep and shyt
i feel tired, i can do exercises and shyt, but mentally lazy... i drink often 2 cups of coffe a day...

does anyone know wuts up?
 

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same, sometimes i get around 7-8 hrs of sleep and work part-time along with full time school and was mentally sleepy, sometimes physically tired too.

of course my job is usually me staring off into the comp for the day working on projects.

even with break on. i sleep till noon, sometimes 7 - 10 hrs of sleep and still get to work tired. Of course hitting the gym helps me sleep better, but when i wake up to go to work im still exhausted.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Most people let's face it are lethargic and lazy because they have no purpose or goals in life. Sleeping too much can make you tired because it upsets your normal rythms.
 

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ain't it the truth.

everytime i crack open i book to study i get ADD and become tired. lol
 
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