"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bossman90

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Ok, so before getting messed up and having to read PU stuff to require game. I was really charming and good. However I don't understand something. I see dudes with no game end up with really hot girls. How is this possible?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Harry Wilmington

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Just because you don't think they have game, doesn't mean they don't have game. You just don't know what game they're running.

For example: even after learning all there is to know about getting women, I wouldn't say my "game" is very forward. The version of the game I play is the "patience" game, where I don't over-extend myself to a woman in the beginning, thus making her desire to see me more. For example: I'll see a girl at a party I want to hook up with, and wait 2 hours before talking to her. During that time I'm talking to friends, dancing, acting goofy, and looking like the life of the party, so that she's DYING for me to talk to her. By the time I do, it's nothing to get the digits and be making out with her or having sex with her before the night is over. After that, I play the game again: I wait 3 to 5 days to hit her up, ask her out, and show her a good time, then repeat.

Someone looking on the outside, though, might think my game is lousy - and, perhaps if I had a different personality it would be - or that I'm not using any game at all. But I am. As it stands now, the "patience" version of the game works wonders for my dating/sex life.

If you were "charming and good" before, you may want to get a second opinion. A lot of times, guys who are "nice" think they are being charming when they're really saying things that sound overly-sappy or complimenting girls all the time - in effect, they're trying to be charming but coming off to girls as non-genuine. A guy with no game can still get girls just by simply asking them out - for all the stuff we learn on here about having to trick a girl into liking us, sometimes a simple "hey, you wanna go to the movies sometime?" will get him the date just because the girl respects him for being bold enough to ask her out.

Hope this helps!
 

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You are probably mixing up a dude with 'no game' as in judgting his outer appearance was at a much lower level than the HB girl he was with.

What you don't understand is also that - depending on the girl (or woman), she may be settling down with that 'AFC' who is well educated, financially secure, and spoils her where other men would not that has game.

You always have those exceptions, the gold-diggers, etc.
 

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GotED? said:
You are probably mixing up a dude with 'no game' as in judgting his outer appearance was at a much lower level than the HB girl he was with.

What you don't understand is also that - depending on the girl (or woman), she may be settling down with that 'AFC' who is well educated, financially secure, and spoils her where other men would not that has game.

You always have those exceptions, the gold-diggers, etc.
I think your right on the money with that. And no I'm judging based off of skills not looks.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
Just because you don't think they have game, doesn't mean they don't have game. You just don't know what game they're running.

For example: even after learning all there is to know about getting women, I wouldn't say my "game" is very forward. The version of the game I play is the "patience" game, where I don't over-extend myself to a woman in the beginning, thus making her desire to see me more. For example: I'll see a girl at a party I want to hook up with, and wait 2 hours before talking to her. During that time I'm talking to friends, dancing, acting goofy, and looking like the life of the party, so that she's DYING for me to talk to her. By the time I do, it's nothing to get the digits and be making out with her or having sex with her before the night is over. After that, I play the game again: I wait 3 to 5 days to hit her up, ask her out, and show her a good time, then repeat.

Someone looking on the outside, though, might think my game is lousy - and, perhaps if I had a different personality it would be - or that I'm not using any game at all. But I am. As it stands now, the "patience" version of the game works wonders for my dating/sex life.

If you were "charming and good" before, you may want to get a second opinion. A lot of times, guys who are "nice" think they are being charming when they're really saying things that sound overly-sappy or complimenting girls all the time - in effect, they're trying to be charming but coming off to girls as non-genuine. A guy with no game can still get girls just by simply asking them out - for all the stuff we learn on here about having to trick a girl into liking us, sometimes a simple "hey, you wanna go to the movies sometime?" will get him the date just because the girl respects him for being bold enough to ask her out.

Hope this helps!
Never was the nice guy. Was the funny **** as in I would make fun of girls to entertain myself so it would not come off as douchy. I've never drowned a girl in compliments. I would just open then use what she gave me to bust on her with.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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