"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ExBeta75

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Greetings gentlemen,
I'd yyour thoughts on this although I'mpretty sure iIknow what your answers will be.

I met a woman through twitter a few years ago. She was 40 at the time wwith2 ppreteen boys. She was married as far as iI knew but told me she was in an open marriage. I know her hhusband through social circles but never interacted.
Against my better judgement we ****ed. Very lame sex actually but at the time I was really low and at the height of my beta.
Biggest redflag was she told "i love you" the minute I came after she blew me.

We carried on a ****buddy ssituation for about a year. I would see her husband and aacknowledgehim and he wwouldn't respond. I asked her about that.. She said.. "oh.. He's just acting up"..

At that point I called it off.

Fast forward to last summer we meet up to catch upand she tells me she has a friend she wants to introduce me to. A mid 30s single mom.. Tons of tattoos (concealed by work attire).
Me and this friend start dating. About 2 months in to seeing each other she invites me to her place and I spend the night. The sex was Ok. A few days later we go a friend of hers birthday party. Every one of her friends are like.. "oh.. YYou're the guy"
she got a little drunk andstarted behaving a bit wild for my tastes. Throwing ice at tthe DJ who didn't play a song she liked for example.

I was really turned off by her behaviour. So iI pulled back.
I was unconsciously keeping her as a plate I guess. I hadn't read aabout redpill or plate ttheory at that point.
Everytime Itried to set up a date something wwould come up with work or her child.
Then I started running into mutual friends and they'd ask me.. "how are things withher"
II'd reply that we're both busy and just haven't been able to connect

So last week... My open relationship'friend' texts me and asks hhow's my love life. I say it'sbeen quiet. She asks if iI'd friend zoned the one she introduced me to.
I said.. I hope not..
She then says she has to go because she she continues texting now she'sggoing to want to **** me.
I say Yeah... Not a good time

I tried to set up a date with her friend this week and she cancelled last minute because of child iissues.

I think I've lost frame and it's time to move on. What say you, gentlemen?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Augustus_McCrae

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Yes, it sounds like you might be avoiding a fair amount of drama and frustration if you move on.

-Augustus-
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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