Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Coming across to needy.

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You have chatted a little via text with the girl. You have tried to arrange meetup, but you are both off different days.

Here is the last message i send a girl :-

Really busy next week. Am free on Thursday.
Might be a good idea to exchange digits or some way of contacting you so I can let you know if am free before that x

I have tried meeting up with women like this before, i think i'm going to stop doing it because i will be coming across needy.

Her reply was - Ive only got monday and tuesday off sorry. Ok my number is *********** x
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I always asked for when they were free and then picked a day. You put yourself in a bad spot if she can't meet up on the day you suggest. Guys make this too difficult on themselves. It should be easy.
 

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I don't think there's enough interaction to come across as needy yet. You've only talked online and haven't met in person yet, right?
She gave you the days, so all you have to do is make the plan.
 

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I always asked for when they were free and then picked a day. You put yourself in a bad spot if she can't meet up on the day you suggest. Guys make this too difficult on themselves. It should be easy.
yeah, what i was saying though is, i've been making more effort to set up the date recently than women.
For example, working shifts...sometimes you're not sure when you'll wake up, so i might end up with a few spare hours that i could hit her up.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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You're making this too complicated. You pick the day and time and see what she comes back with.



Her reply gave all the information you need. Make the date for Monday or Tuesday.
I'm working two 12 hour nights monday & tuesday night. Slight possibility i might be able to spare a few hours tuesday, but i think i'm coming across to needy by suggesting that.
 

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I don't think there's enough interaction to come across as needy yet. You've only talked online and haven't met in person yet, right?
She gave you the days, so all you have to do is make the plan.
I am working twelve hour nights monday & tuesday. I did suggest thursday. The point of the thread is i think i'm coming across to needy trying to squeeze her into a few spare hours that i might have tuesday afternoon
 

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You're coming across as needy because you don't have the time to date. Ergo you need them to accommodate you. Either way a female won't put up with your lack of availability. Especially chicks you're meeting online. They'll just quickly move on to the next guy.
 

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I am working twelve hour nights monday & tuesday. I did suggest thursday. The point of the thread is i think i'm coming across to needy trying to squeeze her into a few spare hours that i might have tuesday afternoon
Advice from the old lady:

You are Ok to this point. She gave you 2 days off...you set a short meet up on one of those days. You set it up that you are busy but can grab a coffee before you head to work.

Advantages from a chick's viewpoint are that this is a non threatening way to meet in person in public and there is a built in time limit.

Those are good things because this way things are light, no pressure & low investment (for you AND her.)

It is also a measure of whether or not she fancies you. If she dodges a short, non-threatening meet up like a pre-work coffee? She ain't feel in' it. If she meets you she's showing willingness to make the effort to meet you.

If she gives you any response other than "Yes" or a solid counter at a better time? Then she's not interested.

Worry less about coming across too needy and more about setting up the interaction to suit your aims. You make it simple for her to comply and then you watch her actions to see IF she complies. There is nothing needy about that. Remember that your time is valuable for one, and that as strangers you have to accommodate the other person's life & obligations to a point, for two.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

You are Ok to this point. She gave you 2 days off...you set a short meet up on one of those days. You set it up that you are busy but can grab a coffee before you head to work.

Advantages from a chick's viewpoint are that this is a non threatening way to meet in person in public and there is a built in time limit.

Those are good things because this way things are light, no pressure & low investment (for you AND her.)

It is also a measure of whether or not she fancies you. If she dodges a short, non-threatening meet up like a pre-work coffee? She ain't feel in' it. If she meets you she's showing willingness to make the effort to meet you.

If she gives you any response other than "Yes" or a solid counter at a better time? Then she's not interested.

Worry less about coming across too needy and more about setting up the interaction to suit your aims. You make it simple for her to comply and then you watch her actions to see IF she complies. There is nothing needy about that. Remember that your time is valuable for one, and that as strangers you have to accommodate the other person's life & obligations to a point, for two.
I finish at 8am, then start at 7pm. I will be setting my alarm to get out of bed at 16:10pm. The only chance i have to meet her tuesday is if i wake up a few hours before my alarm goes off :) haha....so cannot confirm anything =)
The only way i'd be able to set something up would of been texting her today telling her i might have a few spare hours tomorrow (tuesday)

Like i say...i dont think thats a good idea. I think, I'm trying to hard to make it happen.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I acknowledge that i should of either made a date on tuesday or not make the date, one or the other i get it...instead of trying to squeeze her in.

At least i am making the effort though. I've just found out that she finishes work at 3pm tomorrow.

These women probably do have time to fit me in but they dont make the effort in the beginning. So f8ck it, i wont make the effort anymore too.
 

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I acknowledge that i should of either made a date on tuesday or not make the date, one or the other i get it...instead of trying to squeeze her in.

At least i am making the effort though. I've just found out that she finishes work at 3pm tomorrow.

These women probably do have time to fit me in but they dont make the effort in the beginning. So f8ck it, i wont make the effort anymore too.
No. You're rationalizing. Amazing how you can continue to come up with paragraphs about why you couldn't make a date on Tuesday with a woman that told you she is free to go out with you on Tuesday. This is your fault, dude.
 

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No. You're rationalizing. Amazing how you can continue to come up with paragraphs about why you couldn't make a date on Tuesday with a woman that told you she is free to go out with you on Tuesday. This is your fault, dude.
Because i worked a fifteen hour shift on monday & a twelve hour shift on tuesday.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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