"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Clubbing question - Spotting potential targets

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Now, I know I am way too young to go clubbing (got another, what, 5 years ahead of me?), but this question has been bugging be as of late.

How do you know if a HB is out to get laid on that night, or if she's there to have fun?

I'm asking because it would be beneficial to minimize losses from the start, and try to PU only those who are PUable.

As I've never gone clubbing, no immediate responses to the question come to mind. The way they dress? Don't all people try to dress nice when going clubbing? How bout the number of friends? I hear that groups of up to 4 are considered approachable.

Or do you try to get EC, and see if she responds well, only then making the approach?

What do you guys with experience think?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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FrankWank

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Technically they all are out to get laid. Thats why men and women both go out.......to get laid

Tip: Look for the hor's, that are around at closing time. Most vulnerable:)
 

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I disagree. Some girls go to dance clubs and do not want to get laid. Sometimes they go and do not even want to dance with guys.

I was explaining in another thread about how there are so many factors in a dance club that it can be impossible to accurately gauge the situation sometimes. Just don't take rejection seriously in places like that.
 

Albion4

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You can tell what a girl is looking for by the way she looks at you. Just keep your eyes open and keep your mind sharp.

You're sitting at some club hanging on the bar with a drink in hand. You notice hottie at the other side of the bar look at you, quickly scan your body, she comes back up and meets your eyes with her's and gives you a nice coy smile. That's you're cue to take the next step; walk over buy her a drink, tell her a joke, get down on all fours and gnaw on her ankle, whatever tips your tizzle.

The number one short coming that I have noticed amongst younger guys (21 to 25) at bars is that they can't pace their drinking. They get so blisteringly drunk that when it comes time to talk to a girl all that comes out is useless banter. Learn that it's ok to tell your buddies "Naw, I don't want another shot." when they offer. Pace your drinking with a soda or juice every other drink. This will not only give you a better chance with women, it will save you from spending the night in jail.

-Al
 

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Maybe I'm just lucky but I'll stand by the bar and I'll spot them make a beeline in my direction and start tryina glance over at me...

Alternatively, one of my friends will start talkin with them and they'll ask "Who's your friend"

Its fallacy that every woman is out to be picked up... but a cool way in if you have a more passive target is to talk to a friend of hers whilst she's isolated and ask who her friend is...

Besides a circumstance which is plainly obvious there is no set way to know who is there for what... you've got to make strides, speak to friends of hers, speak to her direct, and you will get rejected some time its just a fact...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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