"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Clingy/needy women

betheman

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do they ever change? even with age? my last ltr was very clingy/needy etc. good fun and sexy but hard work at times.
what is the best dj strategy in dealing this these types? hit and run? as an ltr it went on further than it should and I handled the whole thing poorly.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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betheman said:
do they ever change? even with age? my last ltr was very clingy/needy etc. good fun and sexy but hard work at times.
what is the best dj strategy in dealing this these types? hit and run? as an ltr it went on further than it should and I handled the whole thing poorly.
Perhaps some examples of her behavior and your subsequent responses would help us understand your dilemma.
 

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I guess the best example was the phonecalls, we lived apart so when we werent together, she would ring, and spend at least an hour on the phone talking about anything and nothing, I swear id get in from work, get something to eat, do a few jobs, prep for work the next day but the rest of the evening was spent on the phone. we only lived 15 miles apart!
if ever I didnt answer there would be voicemail and a call later.
Im amazed I let that continue, never again!
she was very jealous, hated the idea I had a facebook account because everyone on facebook is having sex with each other?????
we always had to do things together, I couldnt do anything on my own , she had to be involved.
its not so much a dilemma, I can see where I went wrong in not curtailing some of this behaviour and I know why I didnt, I was too wussy.
I kept thinking she will calm down but it never did, this was a mature woman and not a teenager
 

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The only effective strategy in dealing with annoying women is permanent avoidance.

Anything else I can help you with?
 

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very good, the avoidance is now in situ!
never again!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Man, I had a deal like this a couple years ago.

She approaches me in a shoe store, sais "Do you like what you see?"

I say, "Yeah."

It was the dead of winter, so I couldn't really get a good fix on her body, but she was at least fit and cute. Well boys, I hit the paystreak that time-she was an ex-stripper and her body was smoking hot. Man, having sex with this girl was like being in a porn- it was fukking awesome. But it didn't take very long for her to start trying to assert herself into my life, she was a forceful b!tch who would claw me to death in bed, so bad that there was blood on the sheets in the morning. She was overly aggressive and constantly demanded my time. I gave her a good bit of myself, but it was never enough, she wanted me to crawl up her ass and pitch a tent.

On top of that, she had a doberman who absolutely had to sleep with us and she constantly chain-smoked. I knew it wasn't going anywhere, plus I was on a "break" from my main FB of the previous 5 years, but MAN was she a wild little vacation to take.

So I guess the moral of the story is, if she's pornstar hot, it might be worth it to take some **** for awhile just for the experience. If not, you gotta ask yourself, what the hell am I still in this for?
 

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"Man, having sex with this girl was like being in a porn- it was fukking awesome."

yup!!!!

I like being clawed to death, Im strange that way but I do like nails in my back and hard.
lol @ the pitch a tent up her arse! mine asked me to marry her ?? thats the mans job to ask I said...I had little intention of doing so, too much of a dodgy background.
Im in my 40's, got this too late in life, was married for 21 years previously.
where was this ****ing site when I was young!
 
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