"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Clingy/needy women

betheman

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do they ever change? even with age? my last ltr was very clingy/needy etc. good fun and sexy but hard work at times.
what is the best dj strategy in dealing this these types? hit and run? as an ltr it went on further than it should and I handled the whole thing poorly.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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betheman said:
do they ever change? even with age? my last ltr was very clingy/needy etc. good fun and sexy but hard work at times.
what is the best dj strategy in dealing this these types? hit and run? as an ltr it went on further than it should and I handled the whole thing poorly.
Perhaps some examples of her behavior and your subsequent responses would help us understand your dilemma.
 

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I guess the best example was the phonecalls, we lived apart so when we werent together, she would ring, and spend at least an hour on the phone talking about anything and nothing, I swear id get in from work, get something to eat, do a few jobs, prep for work the next day but the rest of the evening was spent on the phone. we only lived 15 miles apart!
if ever I didnt answer there would be voicemail and a call later.
Im amazed I let that continue, never again!
she was very jealous, hated the idea I had a facebook account because everyone on facebook is having sex with each other?????
we always had to do things together, I couldnt do anything on my own , she had to be involved.
its not so much a dilemma, I can see where I went wrong in not curtailing some of this behaviour and I know why I didnt, I was too wussy.
I kept thinking she will calm down but it never did, this was a mature woman and not a teenager
 

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The only effective strategy in dealing with annoying women is permanent avoidance.

Anything else I can help you with?
 

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very good, the avoidance is now in situ!
never again!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Man, I had a deal like this a couple years ago.

She approaches me in a shoe store, sais "Do you like what you see?"

I say, "Yeah."

It was the dead of winter, so I couldn't really get a good fix on her body, but she was at least fit and cute. Well boys, I hit the paystreak that time-she was an ex-stripper and her body was smoking hot. Man, having sex with this girl was like being in a porn- it was fukking awesome. But it didn't take very long for her to start trying to assert herself into my life, she was a forceful b!tch who would claw me to death in bed, so bad that there was blood on the sheets in the morning. She was overly aggressive and constantly demanded my time. I gave her a good bit of myself, but it was never enough, she wanted me to crawl up her ass and pitch a tent.

On top of that, she had a doberman who absolutely had to sleep with us and she constantly chain-smoked. I knew it wasn't going anywhere, plus I was on a "break" from my main FB of the previous 5 years, but MAN was she a wild little vacation to take.

So I guess the moral of the story is, if she's pornstar hot, it might be worth it to take some **** for awhile just for the experience. If not, you gotta ask yourself, what the hell am I still in this for?
 

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"Man, having sex with this girl was like being in a porn- it was fukking awesome."

yup!!!!

I like being clawed to death, Im strange that way but I do like nails in my back and hard.
lol @ the pitch a tent up her arse! mine asked me to marry her ?? thats the mans job to ask I said...I had little intention of doing so, too much of a dodgy background.
Im in my 40's, got this too late in life, was married for 21 years previously.
where was this ****ing site when I was young!
 
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