"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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BackInTheGame78

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That’s some good results right there ! Good work. :cool:

! but how many girls did you go on dates with in total to get the 75 bangs is what I meant,

like what was the conversion rate from # total dates

Like 1 date in 3/4/5 went somewhere and ended up converting to sex down the track..
No idea honestly. It varied. Starting out I wasn't very good at converting, but over time I became extremely good (almost too good) at converting. However, when I got out of the exclusive relationships it would take me a little bit of time to get back in the flow again so at first I would not be great again and then would begin improving quickly.

OLD is all about volume. If you want results from it, you have to get volume, and most importantly be able to get them to meet in person.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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No idea honestly. It varied. Starting out I wasn't very good at converting, but over time I became extremely good (almost too good) at converting. However, when I got out of the exclusive relationships it would take me a little bit of time to get back in the flow again so at first I would not be great again and then would begin improving quickly.

OLD is all about volume. If you want results from it, you have to get volume, and most importantly be able to get them to meet in person.
Re volume yeah true, I have 200 matches on my Hinge from about 5-6months.
Probably been on 35-40 dates this year.
I think 15ish lays .. in Jan-may this year.

What at do you make of this redhead chicks behaviour from last night .. ?

she did a switch from originally being almost up for having me come to her place .. for food and drinks…then putting up obstacles to that idea… then FaceTiming me … then switching it to a drinks date at a nearby bar ….bar hopping and c0cktails and watched a band ..4 hour date …making out…

then after we said goodbye with a pash
I get a dear John text after it all at 2am.

maybe she was up for a hookup originally, then saw me and changed her mind sussing me out for more than that I guess.

weird

And annoying for me…

sick of this bullsh1t!!
 

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Re volume yeah true, I have 200 matches on my Hinge from about 5-6months.
Probably been on 35-40 dates this year.
I think 15ish lays .. in Jan-may this year.

What at do you make of this redhead chicks behaviour from last night .. ?

she did a switch from originally being almost up for having me come to her place .. for food and drinks…then putting up obstacles to that idea… then FaceTiming me … then switching it to a drinks date at a nearby bar ….bar hopping and c0cktails and watched a band ..4 hour date …making out…

then after we said goodbye with a pash
I get a dear John text after it all at 2am.

maybe she was up for a hookup originally, then saw me and changed her mind sussing me out for more than that I guess.

weird

And annoying for me…

sick of this bullsh1t!!
Hard to really say. It's one woman and one interaction. Could be she didn't see you as a SNL worthy guy but at the same time also didn't see you as having long term potential. So then you would have ended up somewhere in the murky middle which is where many women don't like going.
 

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Hard to really say. It's one woman and one interaction. Could be she didn't see you as a SNL worthy guy but at the same time also didn't see you as having long term potential. So then you would have ended up somewhere in the murky middle which is where many women don't like going.
yeah .. good points .
Upon reflection as she was somewhat open to the house visit .. perhaps I should have pressed her on that one and pushed for that scenario only.

may mistake was accepting the switch proposal of meetup and drinks I reckon.

I went from Lover frame to provider frame right then.
And I currently don’t have the status/money value in that frame to convert to sex.

this chicks last casual relationship was some ‘older gentleman’ swinger guy she met on a hinge. She told me it took a while for her to see his place and when she did he lived in a Mansion in a rich suburb and was a retired ,loaded dude. So lotsa cash, fancy lifestyle and also importantly , party drugs.:cry:

this redhead had a baggie she was dipping into all through the date last night on her toilet visiits…

same with another chick I met a few weeks back.

the hotter ladies defs want the status/money/lifestyle also in the ongoing relationship frame.. or so I’m finding.

acrually on reflection - both chicks told me in stories on the date a lot of this kind of info about their previous BFs.. they were basically telling me “this is how I roll and what I expect”

but I’m a bit slow on the uptake. :rolleyes:
must pay more attention from now on.

This is for sure how women communicate.. indirectly via “stories”.
It’s a read-between-the-lines type deal imo/ime.
I often miss this worrying about other things and not active listening.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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No idea honestly. It varied. Starting out I wasn't very good at converting, but over time I became extremely good (almost too good) at converting.
How can you be ‘almost TOO good’ at converting /success in dating…?

I thought that was the whole point ..
ie ‘getting Game’.?

what’s the downside in the case your describing idk

-confused
 

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How can you be ‘almost TOO good’ at converting /success in dating…?

I thought that was the whole point ..
ie ‘getting Game’.?

what’s the downside in the case your describing idk

-confused
Because then it leads to issues with too many plates, too much mental and physical work and eventually literal physical exhaustion from fvcking too much.
 
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