"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Chubby Chasers

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One thing I've been noticing when I go out, having lost a lot of weight myself, is how many of the girls are overweight. (I am in the US). These are girls who are young, well dressed, have pretty faces, but are just seriously overweight. I would say over half of the girls in any club are overweight. Of the normal/thin girls, most have average faces. So, maybe only 1 in 5 girls are truly attractive: nice body and nice face. And I don't mean exceptionally attractive, just attractive enough to spend time gaming.

Many of my friends find these big girls attractive. I sometimes look at them with shock as they try (often successfully) to "pick up" these girls. I even think my taste in girls is changing a bit as I begin to see the world through their eyes a bit.

Do you guys consider a heavier girl attractive? What's frightening to me is that these girls may actually come to think of themselves as hot, and start getting an attitude, just like girls who actually are attractive.

Question 1: what is the appeal of the bigger girl?
Question 2: are guys who chase big girls suffering from low self esteem or are certain guys just naturally attracted to bigger builds?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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total_afc said:
are guys who chase big girls suffering from low self esteem or are certain guys just naturally attracted to bigger builds?
You pretty much nailed it here. The mentality of an AFC is that if they get rejected by a "big girl" it won't mean anything. They aren't risking anything. Their chances of success are immeasurably higher as well, especially if they posses anything close to "average" looks.

There IS someone for everyone, but the amount of "chubby chasers" out there is likely absurdly disproportionate to the number of guys who are genuinely attracted to larger ladies. Some people are just looking for love an acceptance and will put up with it to get that.
 

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whats AFC stand for?

I HEAR YOU about overly fat girls getting the hot chick attitude, it just makes me laugh.
 

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Some guys like thick chicks. Not flabby fat fvcks but chicks with some meat who can throw the ass around are A-ok :up:

And to answer you new brother, AFC means: Average Frustrated Chump. What you are until you pop your cherry.

Read the bible.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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The nice thing about really obese chicks is that you can pretend they are a giant breast with a vagina. :D
That's just plain nasty. What's worse is the article from the May '07 Details magazine.

Super-size Me!
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
That's just plain nasty. What's worse is the article from the May '07 Details magazine.

Super-size Me!
That is an entertainingly horrible article. Great to read. I've sent it to everyone I know.
 

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That is an entertainingly horrible article. Great to read. I've sent it to everyone I know.
And I bet they will love you for it... ;)
 

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Thick girls, fat girls and obese girls are all in leagues of their own. Say not to fat and obese, that just nasty. Thick girls are where its at with their accentuated body parts. Nice thighs, plump ass and big titties...muy bueno.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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OK, so what is the difference? A pic of each as an example would be good, anyone, not just oakraider can post. Sometimes, I wonder if "thick" is euphemism for "fat?"

oakraiderz2 said:
Thick girls, fat girls and obese girls are all in leagues of their own. Say not to fat and obese, that just nasty. Thick girls are where its at with their accentuated body parts. Nice thighs, plump ass and big titties...muy bueno.
 

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total_afc said:
OK, so what is the difference? A pic of each as an example would be good, anyone, not just oakraider can post. Sometimes, I wonder if "thick" is euphemism for "fat?"
Fat girls: have a gut, small titties or big, fat tits (eww), fatness everywhere on their body.

Thick girls: bigger than average ass and thighs, but not fat. Nice stomach, big boobs, and is in good shape.

Thick girls are pretty much the same as skinny girls, but a bigger frame thats much better...jea.
 

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oh man, that article is disgusting. Yet morbidly fascinating....kinda like a train wreck... :p

And yeah, thick girls are where its at :)
 
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