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first religion was nature actually, people venerable nature as a powerfull being, for lack of knowledge and ignorance, nature is powerfull, but today we don't worship it anymore we know how it work and try to bend it to our will with tools, we can predict certains outcomes for now.The only true “god” is nature. All religion is made so that humans don’t destroy each other. If there wasn’t religion the human race would be in chaos (more so)
IF its the manual from the manufacturer, the problem is diferently of a washing machine when you acquire it it come with said manual, us don't, years later you see several people come to your house trying to sell they manual on what they think and guess its right way in doing so.If you owned a washing machine and it came with an instruction manual from the manufacturer telling you how to maintain and operate it at peak efficiency, you would have free will to operate it however you like. However, if it broke down, it's on you for not listening to the manufacturer.
The seduction community tells you to examine your beliefs and attitudes. It wants you to have the humility of admitting that you were an AFC, put women on a pedestal, and challenges you to change what isn't good enough. Not that different from "religion" in that respect.Every religion told me to be humble and to put myself down **** that.
The Bible mainly concerns itself with spirituality, it's not a physics book.also learning history, philosofy, and physics give a better undertanding of the world then a imaginary friend
but your spirit is what is in your mind, so its your mind, only diference is you want to belive on something else, I don't waste time on that, I accept there is nothing I can about it, and also the world is chaos, there is no meaning, no order, everything happens for no reason, even when you try to manipulate certain events things can go sideways because of a random event you couldn't predictThe seduction community tells you to examine your beliefs and attitudes. It wants you to have the humility of admitting that you were an AFC, put women on a pedestal, and challenges you to change what isn't good enough. Not that different from "religion" in that respect.
The Bible mainly concerns itself with spirituality, it's not a physics book.
But since you've plainly come out with it, you're simply saying that there is no God, everything else you're saying derives from that. I believe it is a waste of time to argue over the existence of God, because it can't be proven either way. I'm very familiar with atheistic arguments, and all such discussions tend to be circular, there is never a conclusion that is going to be reached. Whether or not you believe in God is a theo-philosophical choice that each person makes.
It's just depends on what you think about the nature of reality. It's rather disrespectful to dismiss faith with being the equivalent of having an "imaginary friend". There are scientists who theorize that we are living in what is basically a computer simulation. I don't think it's so crazy to believe that there is something more.
It is indeed God's plan to give humanity freewill and with that comes freedom of choice.you know you just returned to never disobey god's will, mass control again.
yes free will, but everything is still on gods plan, so he gave you free will to obey what he want, that is hardly freedom, you can't say god have a plan to everyone and then toss the free will, you are just saying you need to obey and never question
I agree but I'm still going back into religiosity.While it was written a long time before the "church" it certainly had to pass editorial approval by "church" leaders.
And the dudes who "edited" all the books that went into the bible were politically connected Romans.
And you don't need to specifically say exactly what you want the reader to infer from the passage.
Dale Carnegie even described this as, "you can get anybody to do anything so long as they think it was their idea."
So, it could be argued that that passage was included to sway the readers intentions.
Also, even though no church may have existed at that time of writing, religious leaders, keepers of sacred texts, etc. have always had huge amounts of power over the population.
So I can easily see how that particular passage would easily have two simultaneous meanings, one that sounds like good common sense, and another to create a easily manageable population.
That's the kind of thing all religious leaders are good at.
However, if you are a "word of god" type guy, you'll tend to believe all sacred texts are divinely inspired and therefore infallible.
If you are a skeptic of authority, you'll see all sacred texts as means to the end of easier population control.
I've read some scholars who postulate the book of Job was re-written, had different endings added, etc., to better reflect the Jewish history particularly in the face of large setbacks.
Those who study Chinese mythology say it's hard to tell the difference between organic myths and ones that were co-opted to help the state rule more effectively.
It's hard to argue that religious/mythical texts don't have a certain element if population control built into them.
Well zekko its the status quo these daysThere are obviously people who use organized religion to their benefit, but I'm talking about spirituality. Not everyone approaches theophilosophical ideas with an aim to manipulate others, or to be manipulated. Ecclesiastes is a good read, I would think even an atheist would admit that.
You may have been taught that, but those beliefs are certainly not reflective of Christianity. Quite the opposite, if anything. You seem to have run into some of the people Alvafe has, who are twisting things to their own agenda.
Yea, a story I heard was the singles ministry organizer banging all the ladies. This church has like several hundred singles. So it's the same thing that goes on, just structured and more of a "positive" place than a strip club or bar.This is a hard reality, but plenty of Christian dudes in your church were alphas hitting ***** like you can't believe. You can't really blame the church or religion, it was just a template for your own simpness. Get over it move on, be a man.
Ironically enough, the bible is more alpha than the most alpha red pill awareness youtube or DJ.I read the Bible until this dude stole this blonde girl from me. I was only 15. The teaching in the Bible do not help you to get the woman you want! It even goes against hiring hookers, while many priest are fvcking kids..... I eventually discarded it. However, I am still believe in God. He gives opportunities with women, he allows me to have a decent job, and life. Women don't want to date a bum. I also see how people create social circles in the church to meet people. Some use religion to manipulate women. I am wondering how Warren Jeff did it. How I can become a poligamist. I should move to Utah first...
OP the bible cannot do anything per se unless the boy or man is already inclined in that direction.
For example, if a man is inherently evil, he could read the entire Bible, claim to understand it and then proceed to enforce a mass extinction of a race or city just because the "Bible" thought him so.
And for a man who is inherently saintly, he could read the entire Bible, claim to understand it and then proceed to preach goodness or even influencing countries to apply good practices for humanity.
See the difference?
Also Deez on the flip side you can be a Christian and not chase the puzz and make women your pinnacle and still be alpha.Ironically enough, the bible is more alpha than the most alpha red pill awareness youtube or DJ.
Today, church and Christianity pander to girl power. Volume of feminism and simp to a single mom and her bastard rug rats from diff men.
Common sense isn't too common. You can be Muslim or Christian and absolutely obliterate girls. My mate is a Muslim, alpha as ****kkk and he humps everything. Its hilarious.
100 +1Also Deez on the flip side you can be a Christian and not chase the puzz and make women your pinnacle and still be alpha.
Imo it all comes down to "your house" and what you allow through "the gate"
I think it's a matter of how YOU take it, mentally.religion is religion, saying church is just a slang for keeping the power to the religion, with is always used for control, yes avoid extremes, follow god, btw who had teh word of god in hands? who guided the people? a extreme could be not following the religion, another extreme would be getting knowledge the religion belive is bad, the simple matter is follow and know your place
I wouldn't call that "positive" since single's ministries usually rally up people to wait until marriage before having sex and make a big deal out of it and to avoid porn and fapping, etc.... I've also been to single's ministries in the past and didn't really meet or connect with anyone there, and in this regard, I've never met anyone in the church. With a strip club or bar there is no false pretense involved that people are really waiting to have sex until they are married, or keeping chaste while that is occurring behind the scenes. That aspect is very toxic because of the hypocrisy involved in the whole thing. There are countless times that I have felt ignored or "just a number" in Christian singles groups when I was younger. It's only positive if you ignore that women are there and focus on the Bible.Yea, a story I heard was the singles ministry organizer banging all the ladies. This church has like several hundred singles. So it's the same thing that goes on, just structured and more of a "positive" place than a strip club or bar.
yeah huge necro.I think it's a matter of how YOU take it, mentally.
If you see it as advice or wisdom, its different than seeing it as law and obedience/disobedience.
IMO, this is what the church needs to demonstrate more. I think people would be more trusting in the word.
If you present it with an air of Obedience, that all must fit into a neat little shell, it makes some people shallow, and some spiteful. That's just human nature.
But if, instead its presented as proceeding through life with a level head, and as not caving to group influence- as opposed to being led like cattle into a chute it will be better received and understood.
Hope I'm making some kind of sense with this.