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Nothing before marriage... except a few lip taste.I thought she was adverse to fondling you.![]()
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Nothing before marriage... except a few lip taste.I thought she was adverse to fondling you.![]()
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
In this day and age, when too much freedom [anarchy?] and a woman's loyalty is the problem, this kind of tie is a massive advantage for an LTR/ marriage. Without it, marriage hardly makes sense.Keep in mind that if this strick abidance to her religion was instilled by her parents that she may not consider any other personal means for observing her faith untill her parents pass away.
I saw it in the family of my first wife.
Very true. That’s the plus side. The negative may be if he can’t adapt to the family religious environment regarding marriage and any children produced.In this day and age, when too much freedom [anarchy?] and a woman's loyalty is the problem, this kind of tie is a massive advantage for an LTR/ marriage. Without it, marriage hardly makes sense.
Yes, definitely positives and negatives. But given the way our culture has swung way out to the freedom/ anarchy/ individualistic side the positives have to way out the negatives... in so far as one desires an LTR. Those negatives also impact on your own individuality. In 'macro' terms, I'd say it's where culture/ religion comes to outweigh the ideology of the individual.Very true. That’s the plus side. The negative may be if he can’t adapt to the family religious environment regarding marriage and any children produced.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
The old moral structure aka law was ten commandments...the new moral structure is to love God, and my fellow humans...so now, just one commandment...Love.So I saw the thread ''is it hard to be christian'' was closed. (don't want to have rant about why)
Dating a christian girl who recently threw at me : ''you have no moral structure''
To after my reply come back with ''I apologize, you are right, you have a moral code and its just different in our methods and approachs... it does make my mind going'' etc...
My question and answer request: ''What is the moral structure of a Christian?'' ... Aiming mostly at the Catholic Christians moral structure, concept, code and approach.
Yes, definitely positives and negatives. But given the way our culture has swung way out to the freedom/ anarchy/ individualistic side the positives have to way out the negatives... in so far as one desires an LTR. Those negatives also impact on your own individuality. In 'macro' terms, I'd say it's where culture/ religion comes to outweigh the ideology of the individual.
I agree.... it's really hard for me with this.Very true. That’s the plus side. The negative may be if he can’t adapt to the family religious environment regarding marriage and any children produced.
Almost sounds like blue balls until marriage indoctrination course.Anyway, she wants me to read Jason Evert PureManhood book (chastity stuff) and go to the seminar ''Theology of the body'' by Christopher West
Agreed, its my philosophy too. Hence, why I feel the lack of real relationship.... from experience you never know the person until you live with her/him.Almost sounds like blue balls until marriage indoctrination course.
When I make a large investment like a car or woman, I usually want a test drive first.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Yes, it is... I am learning slowly... (gonna read her stuff and the bible in break time etc...)Life is full of choices. The differences in your religious backgrounds may be a compatibility issue though…
Does she have a sister is what I want to know.Yes, definitely positives and negatives. But given the way our culture has swung way out to the freedom/ anarchy/ individualistic side the positives have to way out the negatives... in so far as one desires an LTR. Those negatives also impact on your own individuality. In 'macro' terms, I'd say it's where culture/ religion comes to outweigh the ideology of the individual.
The way these things usually work out in practice in religious circles is that in the engagement period, when the two of you are pretty much locked in, things... develop.Almost sounds like blue balls until marriage indoctrination course.
When I make a large investment like a car or woman, I usually want a test drive first.
But that's for the Jews and the Muslims.. (according to the GF... who was using Virgin Mary as example... in jewish tradition she was engaged... so technically she could have been ''not virgin''The way these things usually work out in practice in religious circles is that in the engagement period, when the two of you are pretty much locked in, things... develop.
Well, as you said, you have a low sex drive, so chastity, for a short period, should not be a problem for you.But that's for the Jews and the Muslims.. (according to the GF... who was using Virgin Mary as example... in jewish tradition she was engaged... so technically she could have been ''not virgin''
Christians... marriage lock first.... and damn all these book about chastity lol.
If the question about sisters was to me.... Exhausted: she has 4 sisters (2 became nuns, the 2 eldest), one is underage, one is around 20
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Yeah that part is actually the less of an issue.Well, as you said, you have a low sex drive, so chastity, for a short period, should not be a problem for you.
I whispered to her this... she jumped into my chest and started signing the poems.. Wow it literally took her and she became al over me (while controlling her sex desire)... she was submit to her love to me.You should distract her from her Bible talk with some romantic poetry:
How beautiful you are and how pleasing,
my love, with your delights!
Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,
and your mouth like the best wine.
(just kidding, that is the Bible, The Song of Solomon)
That is both hilarious and great to hear. Here's the wiki page about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_SongsI whispered to her this... she jumped into my chest and started signing the poems.. Wow it literally took her and she became al over me (while controlling her sex desire)... she was submit to her love to me.
You have other Song of Solomon? Where can i find them (like a quote book, or à website with just that)
This is why I converted to the Catholic Church. The Protestant sects are rife with all sorts of secular ideologies... most noticeably feminism these days.I am currently in France.
Last week, I was in Portugal Lisboa.
My gf is Catholic christian.
We went to a Portuguese Mass at a church. This mass was spécial.
Spécial: Why and how?
The Mass kept the Pre-Vatican 2 ceremony. The priest was assisted by 2 young boy, he would talk his back to the crowd. Etc.
Now i noticed something spécial about the attendance.
The attendance: Women were Veiled, 80% were Man, all under 30 years old.
My GF said that the Vatican 2 (after 1960) was more a feminist catholic church.
The pre-1960 talk more about Man, Royalty of Jesus.
So the Conservative catholic church of pre-1960... Appeal to young man.
There was not a single gray haïr outside of the priest.
While all the "current standard church"have only old people and immigrants.
Is traditionalism a way to préserve manhood?
Some posters talk of Jordan Peterson... Jordan Peterson has great lectures on the Bible and it's symbolism in Secular world, but he's also a no-sex no cohabit before marriage advocate.
Just wanted to share my discovery of how the " old catholic church" as more appeal to young man
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.