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Nothing before marriage... except a few lip taste.I thought she was adverse to fondling you.![]()
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Nothing before marriage... except a few lip taste.I thought she was adverse to fondling you.![]()
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
In this day and age, when too much freedom [anarchy?] and a woman's loyalty is the problem, this kind of tie is a massive advantage for an LTR/ marriage. Without it, marriage hardly makes sense.Keep in mind that if this strick abidance to her religion was instilled by her parents that she may not consider any other personal means for observing her faith untill her parents pass away.
I saw it in the family of my first wife.
Very true. That’s the plus side. The negative may be if he can’t adapt to the family religious environment regarding marriage and any children produced.In this day and age, when too much freedom [anarchy?] and a woman's loyalty is the problem, this kind of tie is a massive advantage for an LTR/ marriage. Without it, marriage hardly makes sense.
Yes, definitely positives and negatives. But given the way our culture has swung way out to the freedom/ anarchy/ individualistic side the positives have to way out the negatives... in so far as one desires an LTR. Those negatives also impact on your own individuality. In 'macro' terms, I'd say it's where culture/ religion comes to outweigh the ideology of the individual.Very true. That’s the plus side. The negative may be if he can’t adapt to the family religious environment regarding marriage and any children produced.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
The old moral structure aka law was ten commandments...the new moral structure is to love God, and my fellow humans...so now, just one commandment...Love.So I saw the thread ''is it hard to be christian'' was closed. (don't want to have rant about why)
Dating a christian girl who recently threw at me : ''you have no moral structure''
To after my reply come back with ''I apologize, you are right, you have a moral code and its just different in our methods and approachs... it does make my mind going'' etc...
My question and answer request: ''What is the moral structure of a Christian?'' ... Aiming mostly at the Catholic Christians moral structure, concept, code and approach.
Yes, definitely positives and negatives. But given the way our culture has swung way out to the freedom/ anarchy/ individualistic side the positives have to way out the negatives... in so far as one desires an LTR. Those negatives also impact on your own individuality. In 'macro' terms, I'd say it's where culture/ religion comes to outweigh the ideology of the individual.
I agree.... it's really hard for me with this.Very true. That’s the plus side. The negative may be if he can’t adapt to the family religious environment regarding marriage and any children produced.
Almost sounds like blue balls until marriage indoctrination course.Anyway, she wants me to read Jason Evert PureManhood book (chastity stuff) and go to the seminar ''Theology of the body'' by Christopher West
Agreed, its my philosophy too. Hence, why I feel the lack of real relationship.... from experience you never know the person until you live with her/him.Almost sounds like blue balls until marriage indoctrination course.
When I make a large investment like a car or woman, I usually want a test drive first.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yes, it is... I am learning slowly... (gonna read her stuff and the bible in break time etc...)Life is full of choices. The differences in your religious backgrounds may be a compatibility issue though…
Does she have a sister is what I want to know.Yes, definitely positives and negatives. But given the way our culture has swung way out to the freedom/ anarchy/ individualistic side the positives have to way out the negatives... in so far as one desires an LTR. Those negatives also impact on your own individuality. In 'macro' terms, I'd say it's where culture/ religion comes to outweigh the ideology of the individual.
The way these things usually work out in practice in religious circles is that in the engagement period, when the two of you are pretty much locked in, things... develop.Almost sounds like blue balls until marriage indoctrination course.
When I make a large investment like a car or woman, I usually want a test drive first.
But that's for the Jews and the Muslims.. (according to the GF... who was using Virgin Mary as example... in jewish tradition she was engaged... so technically she could have been ''not virgin''The way these things usually work out in practice in religious circles is that in the engagement period, when the two of you are pretty much locked in, things... develop.
Well, as you said, you have a low sex drive, so chastity, for a short period, should not be a problem for you.But that's for the Jews and the Muslims.. (according to the GF... who was using Virgin Mary as example... in jewish tradition she was engaged... so technically she could have been ''not virgin''
Christians... marriage lock first.... and damn all these book about chastity lol.
If the question about sisters was to me.... Exhausted: she has 4 sisters (2 became nuns, the 2 eldest), one is underage, one is around 20
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Yeah that part is actually the less of an issue.Well, as you said, you have a low sex drive, so chastity, for a short period, should not be a problem for you.
I whispered to her this... she jumped into my chest and started signing the poems.. Wow it literally took her and she became al over me (while controlling her sex desire)... she was submit to her love to me.You should distract her from her Bible talk with some romantic poetry:
How beautiful you are and how pleasing,
my love, with your delights!
Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”
May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine,
the fragrance of your breath like apples,
and your mouth like the best wine.
(just kidding, that is the Bible, The Song of Solomon)
That is both hilarious and great to hear. Here's the wiki page about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_of_SongsI whispered to her this... she jumped into my chest and started signing the poems.. Wow it literally took her and she became al over me (while controlling her sex desire)... she was submit to her love to me.
You have other Song of Solomon? Where can i find them (like a quote book, or à website with just that)
This is why I converted to the Catholic Church. The Protestant sects are rife with all sorts of secular ideologies... most noticeably feminism these days.I am currently in France.
Last week, I was in Portugal Lisboa.
My gf is Catholic christian.
We went to a Portuguese Mass at a church. This mass was spécial.
Spécial: Why and how?
The Mass kept the Pre-Vatican 2 ceremony. The priest was assisted by 2 young boy, he would talk his back to the crowd. Etc.
Now i noticed something spécial about the attendance.
The attendance: Women were Veiled, 80% were Man, all under 30 years old.
My GF said that the Vatican 2 (after 1960) was more a feminist catholic church.
The pre-1960 talk more about Man, Royalty of Jesus.
So the Conservative catholic church of pre-1960... Appeal to young man.
There was not a single gray haïr outside of the priest.
While all the "current standard church"have only old people and immigrants.
Is traditionalism a way to préserve manhood?
Some posters talk of Jordan Peterson... Jordan Peterson has great lectures on the Bible and it's symbolism in Secular world, but he's also a no-sex no cohabit before marriage advocate.
Just wanted to share my discovery of how the " old catholic church" as more appeal to young man
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.