Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Here is a question for you guys.

If your girl were to cheat, would it make you feel worse if she cheated with a guy or a gal and why?
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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samspade said:
I'd probably feel worse if it were a guy. An experience with a girl is at least something I cannot offer. Not that either is forgivable, but the idea of another man's salami in there would piss me off much more. That's my rapid reaction to your question.
I'm undecided, but leaning toward your thinking.
 

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samspade said:
I'd probably feel worse if it were a guy. An experience with a girl is at least something I cannot offer. Not that either is forgivable, but the idea of another man's salami in there would piss me off much more. That's my rapid reaction to your question.
Exact thoughts. Exact...
 

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Cheating is cheating and is not tolerated if she's committed to you. Period.

If she cheats with a guy, drop her. If she cheats with a girl and the girl is hot, tell her the only way to save the relationship is to set up a threesome. Drop if she doesn't do it. If she does do it, have fun then drop to plate or just get rid of.

Angry butt sex is also appropiate before you break up.
 

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scrouds said:
Cheating is cheating and is not tolerated if she's committed to you. Period.

If she cheats with a guy, drop her. If she cheats with a girl and the girl is hot, tell her the only way to save the relationship is to set up a threesome. Drop if she doesn't do it. If she does do it, have fun then drop to plate or just get rid of.

Angry butt sex is also appropiate before you break up.
I agree this is a solid approach for shorter term relationships.

For something more longer term, I think cheating with either sex indicates a problem with her ability to reason and reciprocate. I'd drop her in the blink of an eye.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Id be more upset if it was a guy, no doubt. If it was a girl I almost wouldn't feel cheated on...weird. Id still dump her though.
 

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Anybody in a faithful relationship shouldn't cheat. At the same time, that doesn't answer your question, but it would hurt either way. It might hurt a bit more if she turned into a full-blown lesbian without me knowing.
 

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Both are cheating, but with the guy, you have the instinctual nauseating feeling of cuckoldry on top of the affair.
 

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samspade said:
I'd probably feel worse if it were a guy. An experience with a girl is at least something I cannot offer. Not that either is forgivable, but the idea of another man's salami in there would piss me off much more. That's my rapid reaction to your question.
^^^^ This.

I have a friend who's been married for 20+ years.
It's an open marriage and both are completely cool with it.
When their out as a couple, they're close as can be (holding hands ...).
Never quite understood it, but I suppose it works for them.

SH
 
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Well, here's one for you.

Say for example you ask your woman to have a 3some with another girl and she agrees. But then says "I'll do it, but I want a 3some with you and one of your buddies."

What would you do?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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5string said:
Well, here's one for you.

Say for example you ask your woman to have a 3some with another girl and she agrees. But then says "I'll do it, but I want a 3some with you and one of your buddies."

What would you do?
I wouldn't. But, I wouldn't have a 3-some of any kind with a girl I was in a relationship with.
 

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This question takes me back to the most painful moment in my dating life. My answer to the question would have closely matched everyone who answered above, but...

There was mutual love between a woman and I. We were not in a relationship (I wouldn't do it), but she asked me to be monogamous and, because I loved her and wasn't thinking about other women, I agreed. After about a year, she became distant. I knew there was someone else, of course, but what I didn't expect the feeling that overwhelmed me when I received an email that stated, "guess what I did?"

A woman! It took me two seconds to figure it out. She had a relatively new female friend who she never mentioned to me, so I think the intent was always there. I cannot put into words the amount of pain I felt over this. It had nothing to do with it being a woman, it's the betrayal of a loved one that's truly painful.
 

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I wouldnt give a flying fk if my gf have sex with an other girls, I simply dont see any desrespect toward me, just hope its a hot one.

While if with a guy they are both pissing in my territory and that would really piss me off, its not a matter of feelings but as I said of territory.
An other woman simply lack what it needs to posses an other woman so no problem, they are both the passive part.


Jitterbug and Samspade got the point.
 
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5string said:
Well, here's one for you.

Say for example you ask your woman to have a 3some with another girl and she agrees. But then says "I'll do it, but I want a 3some with you and one of your buddies."

What would you do?
Is the other chick hot? Agree do the wmw 3some, then break up with her before the mwm one.
 

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Dear 5String,
Regrettably for me,the matter is not academic.....
My Last "Lady",Please understand,I use the term in its broadest context....Beat me up in front of the kids,for no real reason,then went to live with two Lesbians in a Menage a trois....My daughters blame me....I prevented her realising her full potential by keeping her at home for 23 Years LOL ...Stone the Crows,she wouldn't work in an Iron Lung....Maybe I should do Wimmins Studies too....Sometimes I do need a bit of a laugh.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Strelok said:
I wouldnt give a flying fk if my gf have sex with an other girls, I simply dont see any desrespect toward me, just hope its a hot one.

While if with a guy they are both pissing in my territory and that would really piss me off, its not a matter of feelings but as I said of territory.
An other man simply lack what it needs to posses an other woman so no problem, they are both the passive part.


Jitterbug and Samspade got the point.
Agreed. I've been with girls who have cheated, but my anger wasn't from an emotional "sadness" level, it was more of an issue of territory, and possession. The mere thought of a girl making me look like a fool (which is all cheating does) sickens me. Back when I did date (relationships) I saw women as a reflection of myself, so I only picked women I thought as quality, attractive, and faithful. After I learned otherwise I became disgusted, but I think the feelings I felt were much different than the average man. I can't really say I've ever been in love, but I can say I have felt "something" after a break up, especially after finding out I've been cheated on.

-Scars
 

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If it's a guy, I'd dump her.
If it's a girl, I'd dump her but ask her for the evidence first.
 

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Girl on girl is the gateway. She's just looking to see how far she can push it. The next one will be a guy.
 

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5string said:
Evidence? WTF!

And where have you been ol friend?
Yeah, wouldn't you want to see the video of the Mrs. with the Mistress??? :D

I've been busy, REALLY busy in the last few months. I hardly have time to make it on anymore, as you probably noticed.

How's everything with you?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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