"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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cheap FUN [first] dates?

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Ok I'm sure this has been discussed to death, but let's bring it back for another round. List off your cheap fun dates and where you had them.

I'm trying to think of a few because movies and food anywhere are just getting stupid, at least for the first date. Not much convo, way too cliche, and not the cheapest in the world.

We all know about the coffee shop.

I don't live by a beach so that's out of the picture.

Ice skating/roller skating are good ones and I try them when I can because (here comes the braggin) I'm damn good at both and it definitely impresses the ladies, but most simply don't want to do anything so active. :woo:

I guess bowling is an option, but I haven't done that in a while.

Perhaps a museum? Though that sounds kinda "serious" to me. It's getting too cold for walks in the park, and although ski/snowboarding trips are awesome and great to go with a girl on, the price and time commitment scream anything but first date.

Any ideas?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Take them to the mall...

IMO can't beat it. Dosen't require money, she can do what all girls love to do which is shop and you can get alot of witty comments when she tries stuff on, you can have her put on a fashion show for you... Sexual content when you walk by Victoria Secrets...

Also has cheap food, alot of people, its a very active atmosphere... can't beat it


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Good point. Would you use it under the pretense that "I need to get something .. wanna come with" or just plainly and straight forward "let's go to the mall"?
 

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^ ^ I don't analyze things like that anymore and I'd advise you not to either


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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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- A cup of coffee date. Wanna make it more interesting? Tell her you have a surprise for her. The surprise? Bring a deck of cards or a card game (Uno, for example) and play a few rounds.

- Bowling. Last I knew, three games of bowling and a rental pair of shoes was about $10 per person.

- Extension of the mall idea - if there's a big bookstore and things are going well, bring her in there and tell her to find a book for you and you'll find one for her - in 15 minutes (no pressure to buy the books, of course) - and explain why you picked it.

- Go to a museum that you like (and that's cheap - some can run you quite a bit). It's a good idea, trust me.

- One of my favorite first dates was seeing a jazz band at a local place. Sit towards the back so you can talk, otherwise the music will be too damn loud. The fun part? Trying to communicate with someone without talking.
 

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- Extension of the mall idea - if there's a big bookstore and things are going well, bring her in there and tell her to find a book for you and you'll find one for her - in 15 minutes (no pressure to buy the books, of course) - and explain why you picked it.
Actually a pretty good idea, if i'm ever single again I'll use this. Tks

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The coffee and cards, eh seems tryhard but could work


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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Good idea on the mall definitely. Cards .. maybe. Dunno if the concept is too much for a first date though. 2nd/3rd + sure.
 

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selfmademob said:
Explain more about that coffee thing with the card game
It's probably better to do after the first date and when you KNOW you want to have some fun.

Play Go Fish, Old Maid, Rummy, or even Spit (now THAT games gets people going if they're good). Or Uno - Uno is great because it's easy to play and is not a typical card game. If she's into it, start betting on games - come up with non-monetary things if possible. You have to be REALLY into the game and not take it seriously. Make it more fun that it should be.
 
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