"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Charles Manson, Dead @ 83

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Nobody misses him. I for one am sorry he took so many impressionable young adult followers that lacked an ingrained moral background with him. Ruined their lives…
A son of a hoe with an unknown father. An early sign of a declining society.…
 
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Man he is a role model in terms of game. If you could be as influential as him but not evil just imagine you could do anything.
Who cares ? Game is not about cult like brainwashing. Trying to grasp for something good out of an evil situation is always a losing encounter. Meanwhile, I’ll achieve semi-god status in my next life…
 
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I don't think he had game. It was the 60s. Anti- establishment, anti-war, anti-conformity was growing fast and the so called American Dream was transitioning so young people's minds were ripe for the picking. He just got lucky, so to speak. Many of his followers were middle and upper middle class bored college students rebelling against 'the Man'.

He was a hateful coward who used his followers to attack the very people (rich, famous) he wanted acceptance from.
 

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Not all murders are equal. The president of the Phillipines has openly bragged about murdering suspected criminals when he was a cop, and he got elected president.

But you kill a hot, blonde, very fvckable young actress - or play a part in that crime - and the cops are going to notice.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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in any event, manson was 5'2, not exactly a stunner and sported a swastika on his head. the guy had harems of women by the time he was of juvie and had these women do whatever he wanted.

but we have guys here posting daily about how their looks, lack of money, or whatever self imposed issue they have is holding them back with women.
I'm not sure we can draw any "game" conclusions from what Manson was doing. He had some sort of weird, cult-like influence over susceptible people, not sure how that happens. Maybe a combination of charisma and a void that needs filled in the people who follow him.

I often think about what Neil Young had to say about Manson. He met him at Beach Boys Dennis Wilson house in the '60s, when Manson was trying to be a rock star. He hung out with the "family", and said that the girls there were totally focused on Charlie, and didn't even notice Neil or Dennis. And Neil said that was unusual, because they had some fame at the time. He said the murders because he didn't get to be a rock star, so he started wiping people out. Reminds me a little of George Sodini, couldn't get what he wanted, so he lashed out.

Manson was never convicted of actually killing anyone himself, but there are rumors that he had and just ever got caught.
 

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there didnt have to be anything wrong with the people he brainwashed. people are scammed and tricked every single day.
We're talking about people who were commanded by Manson to commit horrifically brutal murders, shooting and stabbing people to death, including a pregnant woman who was begging for her baby's life. I think that goes a little beyond "social dynamics". Being scammed is one thing, but no, I don't think that well adjusted, mentally healthy people are going to follow the suggestions of some psychopath to that extent.
 

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youre saying its easier to believe that most of the women (and many men) he dealt with were not normal, mentally stable/healthy rather than believe he was just that charming and manipulative?
I was saying it was probably a little of both. I'm guessing he filled some sort of need or want in them. Takes two to tango.
 

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Charles Manson was the prime example of the dark side of the peace and love and drugs of the 1960s

He is a guy who grew up in prison, foster house, juvenile court.

In 1967, he asked the court to jail him for life because prison was is only home. Court said no

In 1969, he became world famous for his crime. Charles Manson was also the drug dealer of Neil Young, Beatles, beach boys, many high rank of Hollywood and music business. Like Roman Polanski too (the husband of the pregnant murdered blond, who can't set off in the USA for pedophile charges)

Charles Manson shows what power and influence can attract.

Desdinova link is just a tip on the iceberg.

Who gets marriage/wedding proposals the most in society? killers/murderers like Manson

They get hundreds of letters a year from random girls they don't know.

So girls are attracted to killers? How nuts are they? Note: when talking about attracting female. We don't talk of the quality but the quantity.

Here's some stats:

1) why they kill?
37% is for the pleasure of the power feeling
30% is for money (another power symbol)
16% anger

2) how they kill?
44% with guns
22% with strangling by hands
15% with knife

3) what skin colors?
52% white
40% black (raised to 60% since the 90s)
7% Latinos hyspanic

4) gender and age
89% are male
27.5 years old average

5) most an iq of 95 intellectual (so above average)

Manson scored 109 of his iq

Most lack empathy but are smart and we're child abused

Any way, what he did was unforgivable, but you can't deny that power attract. And this guy influence.
Hence, cult status
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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if you want to say the girls that took part in the actual murders were damaged goods, i can accept that. but it wasnt just those girls. this guy had more than a lifetime of women dedicated to him throughout his life. even a world famous musician in his prime invited him to stay at his place because of the amount of women that flocked to him.

you cant discredit seduction because of who did it and to what ends.
I never said he wasn't charming, although I have no interest in Manson's dating life. But there's a big difference between someone inviting you to stay at their house and plunging a knife into someone 28 times. That goes a little beyond seduction and "interacting with people", IMO.
 

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If a murderer played chess well, then he's still:

1) A murderer;
2) A good chess player.

Some of your need to remove your biases from your free thought to deepen your analytical thinking.

Yes, Manson was a murderer (or conspired to murder). Fact.
Yes, Manson had great "game." Fact.

Recognize these material distinctions in "good" or "bad" people, and you will be smarter in life overall.
 
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