"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I have used this on many people to start a conversation and it does work on hot chicks as well. I just go ask for a cell phone. I don't have one so whenever I need to call someone when I'm on the road I ask if I can make a quick call. Usually I'm behind schedule for whatever the reason.

I have had maximum success. Just make sure you make a call telling someone soemthing important or ask for directions on where your supposed to meet.

It worked for me everytime.

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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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nice opener, from a KBJ perspective this could go in many different directions... and you have control of the situation

lol I could even imagine getting them to chase me fr their phone for fun:p

god damn I LOVE being an annoying prick
 

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
You should just walk up to a chick with your cell phone and tell her to punch in her number.
point, I don't have a cell phone

this is field tested guys .

enjoy

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Ok, ok,... How bout this deviation...

You borrow her cell phone and punch in your number. Then you hand it to her and say "Call this number in a few days and ask for me. I might take you out... I might not.." *While keeping a straight face*
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
Ok, ok,... How bout this deviation...

You borrow her cell phone and punch in your number. Then you hand it to her and say "Call this number in a few days and ask for me. I might take you out... I might not.." *While keeping a straight face*
haven't field tested that one but I know that borrowing the cell phone breaks the ice very easily.

I've made friends with people this way very easily. It's just like asking someone for a light for a cigerette or something.

It's not like anyone will resist letting you use their phone unless they are d!ckheads. They want to appear to be good people.

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hmm, i don't know if this will work if you are a total stranger and/or without a sincere face. cause i know when i walk pass people, and they ask me to borrow my cell phone, i decline, because they either look dangerous or i dont trust them enough. they might walk away with my cell phone and i dont need that

but it works for you, so i will keep this opener in mind.

edit: after thinking about it; most of the time when ppl want to use my cell phone, its in middle of downtown, but i can see that opener suceeding in other places like on school campus
 

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I got a better idea.
You say You have to call somebody, chick give You the phone, and You call for 1 secoond in front of her. Of course You call to Yourself. And say - 'hey i had to get Your phone and didnt have better idea to do so. Aint You mad?' Lol. Author of this thread could test it for me ;)
 

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or the troll who should get back under the bridge should
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This is a good approach, undoubtedly. Just make sure you have a vague game plan in mind for what you're going to do after you borrow the girl's phone. Punching in your number sounds intriguing... Might try it out. But this is one of those things that could depend a lot on the personality of the girl (ie. luck), whom you obviously don't know. If you have the bad luck to pick a *****y girl, you might end up regretting it.
 

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Originally posted by MightyMate
Author of this thread could test it for me ;)
ummm... no. I'm in a relationship now. No need for me to Sarge right now.

Trust me, I've used this yesterday down in Philly at different locations.

I have used this before and it helped me out a lot. I got a couple girls numbers from this as well from girls as well.

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
Ok, ok,... How bout this deviation...

You borrow her cell phone and punch in your number. Then you hand it to her and say "Call this number in a few days and ask for me. I might take you out... I might not.." *While keeping a straight face*
How about this deviation of your deviation?

You borrow her cell phone. Call a fake number, or a number you know that won't answer. Do some quick connection with her while your on the phone waiting for them to pick up, and redialing. I dunno, fluff talk, make her laugh, c&f.. quickly, and then, say "hey, thanks, they didn't answer those bastards! Here is my number though, call me"

Not field tested, I'll try it and tell you guys about it.
 

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the phone opener is gold. Another good approach is what the other guy said about, simply saying, "Can I have a look at your phone?"

they say... "sure.."

you type in your number, and dial it, then say, cool, i got your number, my names blah blah, ill give you a call next week for coffee.

gold.

but dont doubt it, otherwise if you feel insecure she will too, and start freaking out.
 

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Originally posted by donovan
the phone opener is gold. Another good approach is what the other guy said about, simply saying, "Can I have a look at your phone?"

they say... "sure.."

you type in your number, and dial it, then say, cool, i got your number, my names blah blah, ill give you a call next week for coffee.

gold.
That's funny. It's like stealing her number whether she likes it or not. It's the closest thing to phone number rape I've ever seen..
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Originally posted by SamePendo
How about this deviation of your deviation?

You borrow her cell phone. Call a fake number, or a number you know that won't answer. Do some quick connection with her while your on the phone waiting for them to pick up, and redialing. I dunno, fluff talk, make her laugh, c&f.. quickly, and then, say "hey, thanks, they didn't answer those bastards! Here is my number though, call me"

Not field tested, I'll try it and tell you guys about it.
When you're talking on her phone start talking about the weirdest stuff ever.. start off by talking about owls from the eastern parts of Asia then gradually pretend to get in a fight with the person on the other end of the phone. Start yelling into her phone... "I'm not gonna put my owls back in captivity!!! what kind of a sicko would do this to my precious feathered creatures..."

Then look at her with a straight face.
 
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