Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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I have used this on many people to start a conversation and it does work on hot chicks as well. I just go ask for a cell phone. I don't have one so whenever I need to call someone when I'm on the road I ask if I can make a quick call. Usually I'm behind schedule for whatever the reason.

I have had maximum success. Just make sure you make a call telling someone soemthing important or ask for directions on where your supposed to meet.

It worked for me everytime.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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nice opener, from a KBJ perspective this could go in many different directions... and you have control of the situation

lol I could even imagine getting them to chase me fr their phone for fun:p

god damn I LOVE being an annoying prick
 

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
You should just walk up to a chick with your cell phone and tell her to punch in her number.
point, I don't have a cell phone

this is field tested guys .

enjoy

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Ok, ok,... How bout this deviation...

You borrow her cell phone and punch in your number. Then you hand it to her and say "Call this number in a few days and ask for me. I might take you out... I might not.." *While keeping a straight face*
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
Ok, ok,... How bout this deviation...

You borrow her cell phone and punch in your number. Then you hand it to her and say "Call this number in a few days and ask for me. I might take you out... I might not.." *While keeping a straight face*
haven't field tested that one but I know that borrowing the cell phone breaks the ice very easily.

I've made friends with people this way very easily. It's just like asking someone for a light for a cigerette or something.

It's not like anyone will resist letting you use their phone unless they are d!ckheads. They want to appear to be good people.

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hmm, i don't know if this will work if you are a total stranger and/or without a sincere face. cause i know when i walk pass people, and they ask me to borrow my cell phone, i decline, because they either look dangerous or i dont trust them enough. they might walk away with my cell phone and i dont need that

but it works for you, so i will keep this opener in mind.

edit: after thinking about it; most of the time when ppl want to use my cell phone, its in middle of downtown, but i can see that opener suceeding in other places like on school campus
 

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I got a better idea.
You say You have to call somebody, chick give You the phone, and You call for 1 secoond in front of her. Of course You call to Yourself. And say - 'hey i had to get Your phone and didnt have better idea to do so. Aint You mad?' Lol. Author of this thread could test it for me ;)
 

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or the troll who should get back under the bridge should
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This is a good approach, undoubtedly. Just make sure you have a vague game plan in mind for what you're going to do after you borrow the girl's phone. Punching in your number sounds intriguing... Might try it out. But this is one of those things that could depend a lot on the personality of the girl (ie. luck), whom you obviously don't know. If you have the bad luck to pick a *****y girl, you might end up regretting it.
 

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Originally posted by MightyMate
Author of this thread could test it for me ;)
ummm... no. I'm in a relationship now. No need for me to Sarge right now.

Trust me, I've used this yesterday down in Philly at different locations.

I have used this before and it helped me out a lot. I got a couple girls numbers from this as well from girls as well.

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Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
Ok, ok,... How bout this deviation...

You borrow her cell phone and punch in your number. Then you hand it to her and say "Call this number in a few days and ask for me. I might take you out... I might not.." *While keeping a straight face*
How about this deviation of your deviation?

You borrow her cell phone. Call a fake number, or a number you know that won't answer. Do some quick connection with her while your on the phone waiting for them to pick up, and redialing. I dunno, fluff talk, make her laugh, c&f.. quickly, and then, say "hey, thanks, they didn't answer those bastards! Here is my number though, call me"

Not field tested, I'll try it and tell you guys about it.
 

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the phone opener is gold. Another good approach is what the other guy said about, simply saying, "Can I have a look at your phone?"

they say... "sure.."

you type in your number, and dial it, then say, cool, i got your number, my names blah blah, ill give you a call next week for coffee.

gold.

but dont doubt it, otherwise if you feel insecure she will too, and start freaking out.
 

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Originally posted by donovan
the phone opener is gold. Another good approach is what the other guy said about, simply saying, "Can I have a look at your phone?"

they say... "sure.."

you type in your number, and dial it, then say, cool, i got your number, my names blah blah, ill give you a call next week for coffee.

gold.
That's funny. It's like stealing her number whether she likes it or not. It's the closest thing to phone number rape I've ever seen..
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by SamePendo
How about this deviation of your deviation?

You borrow her cell phone. Call a fake number, or a number you know that won't answer. Do some quick connection with her while your on the phone waiting for them to pick up, and redialing. I dunno, fluff talk, make her laugh, c&f.. quickly, and then, say "hey, thanks, they didn't answer those bastards! Here is my number though, call me"

Not field tested, I'll try it and tell you guys about it.
When you're talking on her phone start talking about the weirdest stuff ever.. start off by talking about owls from the eastern parts of Asia then gradually pretend to get in a fight with the person on the other end of the phone. Start yelling into her phone... "I'm not gonna put my owls back in captivity!!! what kind of a sicko would do this to my precious feathered creatures..."

Then look at her with a straight face.
 
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