"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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cant believe myself im really dissappointed ex contacted me and i pursued

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so for weeks on end... now my ex(i caused the break up) has been slowly initiating contact with me then it turned into everyday Hot contact from her

then it was to meet up and we met up

we had a great time she even APOLOGISED for things shed done which was amazing tbh something shed never done

so my time of inactions and indifference had clearly worried her

THEN ****HEAD HERE GOES STRAIGHT BACK INTO PURSUE MODE PLANNING GOOD NIGHTS

and shes still there but gone totally gone flakey as ****

its like everything id learnt went straight out the window and i went into autopilot,

back to no initation

just needed to vent
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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You were supposed to f*ck her again and then maintain the upper hand.

Did you at least f*ck her again?
 

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yeah i ****ed her and shes messaged all week then gone flakey as **** when its the day to meet up, thats her olive branch gone now, due to me showing some sympathy as i caused the break up....ill also refrain from drinking alcohol it turns me into instant boyfriend "must fix" mode
 

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yeah i ****ed her and shes messaged all week then gone flakey as **** when its the day to meet up, thats her olive branch gone now, due to me showing some sympathy as i caused the break up....ill also refrain from drinking alcohol it turns me into instant boyfriend "must fix" mode
Since you f*cked her again, she won't be able to forget you as fast. So you can back off for a few weeks and she'll still come back. You must wait her out. Make her think you used her and don't want her anymore.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ive tried to arrange things after the meet up that was my mistake i should have gone back to nc/walk away
 

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ive tried to arrange things after the meet up that was my mistake i should have gone back to nc/walk away
You can get away with it since you had sex. If you hadn't had sex and this happened, it would be over forever.

Definitely cease contract until she reaches out.

I think you need to focus on self improvement. The next time she sees you, you need to demonstrate that you improved. Lose weight, get a tan, detox, fast, get a new job, etc.
 

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ive done all that i also have other options, i just valued the "family" we had where as she has took it as i think her pussies made of gold
 

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just annoying how strong i stayed and she pursued the life out of me, met up great time, then i went back to offering her great times
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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lmao you should just fuk her and ignore her for couple days. then fuuk again and again ignore. its basic mind game i knew ignoring works when I was 10 but somehow people still dont get it
 

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ignoring unless she initiated worked a treat i just went back into "resolve mode" like an adult and its totally backfired on me...

however on the positive note this time a month ago she hoped id die and i was blocked from all contact

i am now unblocked on all formats and we were communicating brilliantly and in a much more adult manor this last week

i will now resume the no initiation again
 

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Need to stop spreading your toxic thinking Neil
I rule this site and you know it.

Sure, getting laid is a terrible, awful thing to go through. Thanks so much for your Sex Prevention Service.

I'm so disappointed I f*cked her again. I'm so disappointed I made her orgasm again and felt her gushing and felt the juice dripping down her thigh. I'm so disappointed that I realized I don't love her as much as before, and that I would just assume date the new model. I'm sad that I have the upper hand now. I'm sad the power flipped back in my favor. Why should anyone be made to suffer this way?
 

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yeah i ****ed her and shes messaged all week then gone flakey as **** when its the day to meet up, thats her olive branch gone now, due to me showing some sympathy as i caused the break up....ill also refrain from drinking alcohol it turns me into instant boyfriend "must fix" mode
Hopefully you at least made her endure a hard ass fvcking to remember you by
 

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i think thats why she comes back she has no reason to even attention seek of me after the way ive been
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Don't be hard on yourself for slipping up one day.

You skip the gym today, you can make the decision to hit it hard tomorrow.

You relapse today, you can make the decision to abstain tomorrow.

You let a toxic ex back in your life today, you can go strict no contact tomorrow.

It's never too late to be brand new. It's always one decision away.


However, despite some poor advice to the contrary already given in this thread, do NOT let any of your actions be dictated by how your ex may or may not respond. Do not make decisions based on trying to make your ex miss you or want you back, that defeats the point of dumping her. Doing well, being emotionally self-sufficient, and being genuinely happy in itself will accomplish those things. But you will be making decisions for you in this case and not her. Your life and the decisions made within it should revolve around you and not some random broad.

Unless you have kids, any rationalization you have to contact her (especially for sex) is just harming yourself. There is no personal victory in conquering something you've already conquered, it just proves an inability to move on and lack of self-value.
 

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guys i was the toxic one i keep saying this however her olive branch has now snapped
 
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