"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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cant believe myself im really dissappointed ex contacted me and i pursued

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so for weeks on end... now my ex(i caused the break up) has been slowly initiating contact with me then it turned into everyday Hot contact from her

then it was to meet up and we met up

we had a great time she even APOLOGISED for things shed done which was amazing tbh something shed never done

so my time of inactions and indifference had clearly worried her

THEN ****HEAD HERE GOES STRAIGHT BACK INTO PURSUE MODE PLANNING GOOD NIGHTS

and shes still there but gone totally gone flakey as ****

its like everything id learnt went straight out the window and i went into autopilot,

back to no initation

just needed to vent
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You were supposed to f*ck her again and then maintain the upper hand.

Did you at least f*ck her again?
 

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yeah i ****ed her and shes messaged all week then gone flakey as **** when its the day to meet up, thats her olive branch gone now, due to me showing some sympathy as i caused the break up....ill also refrain from drinking alcohol it turns me into instant boyfriend "must fix" mode
 

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yeah i ****ed her and shes messaged all week then gone flakey as **** when its the day to meet up, thats her olive branch gone now, due to me showing some sympathy as i caused the break up....ill also refrain from drinking alcohol it turns me into instant boyfriend "must fix" mode
Since you f*cked her again, she won't be able to forget you as fast. So you can back off for a few weeks and she'll still come back. You must wait her out. Make her think you used her and don't want her anymore.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ive tried to arrange things after the meet up that was my mistake i should have gone back to nc/walk away
 

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ive tried to arrange things after the meet up that was my mistake i should have gone back to nc/walk away
You can get away with it since you had sex. If you hadn't had sex and this happened, it would be over forever.

Definitely cease contract until she reaches out.

I think you need to focus on self improvement. The next time she sees you, you need to demonstrate that you improved. Lose weight, get a tan, detox, fast, get a new job, etc.
 

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ive done all that i also have other options, i just valued the "family" we had where as she has took it as i think her pussies made of gold
 

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just annoying how strong i stayed and she pursued the life out of me, met up great time, then i went back to offering her great times
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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lmao you should just fuk her and ignore her for couple days. then fuuk again and again ignore. its basic mind game i knew ignoring works when I was 10 but somehow people still dont get it
 

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ignoring unless she initiated worked a treat i just went back into "resolve mode" like an adult and its totally backfired on me...

however on the positive note this time a month ago she hoped id die and i was blocked from all contact

i am now unblocked on all formats and we were communicating brilliantly and in a much more adult manor this last week

i will now resume the no initiation again
 

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Need to stop spreading your toxic thinking Neil
I rule this site and you know it.

Sure, getting laid is a terrible, awful thing to go through. Thanks so much for your Sex Prevention Service.

I'm so disappointed I f*cked her again. I'm so disappointed I made her orgasm again and felt her gushing and felt the juice dripping down her thigh. I'm so disappointed that I realized I don't love her as much as before, and that I would just assume date the new model. I'm sad that I have the upper hand now. I'm sad the power flipped back in my favor. Why should anyone be made to suffer this way?
 

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yeah i ****ed her and shes messaged all week then gone flakey as **** when its the day to meet up, thats her olive branch gone now, due to me showing some sympathy as i caused the break up....ill also refrain from drinking alcohol it turns me into instant boyfriend "must fix" mode
Hopefully you at least made her endure a hard ass fvcking to remember you by
 

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i think thats why she comes back she has no reason to even attention seek of me after the way ive been
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Don't be hard on yourself for slipping up one day.

You skip the gym today, you can make the decision to hit it hard tomorrow.

You relapse today, you can make the decision to abstain tomorrow.

You let a toxic ex back in your life today, you can go strict no contact tomorrow.

It's never too late to be brand new. It's always one decision away.


However, despite some poor advice to the contrary already given in this thread, do NOT let any of your actions be dictated by how your ex may or may not respond. Do not make decisions based on trying to make your ex miss you or want you back, that defeats the point of dumping her. Doing well, being emotionally self-sufficient, and being genuinely happy in itself will accomplish those things. But you will be making decisions for you in this case and not her. Your life and the decisions made within it should revolve around you and not some random broad.

Unless you have kids, any rationalization you have to contact her (especially for sex) is just harming yourself. There is no personal victory in conquering something you've already conquered, it just proves an inability to move on and lack of self-value.
 

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guys i was the toxic one i keep saying this however her olive branch has now snapped
 
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