"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Can you tell me what I did wrong in this failed attempt at a girl?

Deicide

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Can you tell me what I did wrong in this failed attempt Ok, this was the last time I pursued or asked a girl out, 1 1/2 years ago. Well it started just by me really liking this girl at my high school and I'd been a guy who really would like and get crushes on girls easily but never pursue them and I wanted to ask this girl for her phone number and I couldn't bring myself to do it, I was too afraid. So after school was out and I was on Summer break I looked her number up in the phone book and called her, I talked to her the first time I called on the phone but afterwards I called 20-30 times or maybe a little more and she never answered. So I just quit calling and would wait until school started to ask her out. So I had a class with her and would regularly go up to her and talk to her for a long while about things. It was just friendly conversation and I'd say awkward things sometimes that I know made her think WTF. lol. But after having several sessions of friendly talk I finally asked her out and she said no and I was persistent and asked if she'd please try it for a week with me and she said no and I felt terrible over it, I was angry and upset about it but just went on with my life and I still talked to her on friendly terms many times afterwards and we're still friends to this day. I tend to really fall for girls easily and have this never give up attitude about things so I'm very persistent and try very hard when I try to go out with a girl and I tend to just go for one girl at a time and heavily concentrate on them. So what'd I do wrong in my pursuit of this girl?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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So pimp its scary

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You are AFC.

Do yourself a favor, read through the DJ Bible, and see if you still have that same question.
 

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30 calls, woah!

You came across like a complete love sick puppy and scared the poor girl off, she probably finds you revolting.

1st lesson, play it cool!
 

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So pimp its scary said:
Do yourself a favor, read through the DJ Bible, and see if you still have that same question.
:yes: RTFB
 

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I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I looked her number up in the phone book and called her
seriously.. do you honestly NOT see a problen with this??
I know my first question would be HOW did you get my number?

I called 20-30 times or maybe a little more and she never answered.
damn, me personaly I ONLY call a person three times, and then I'm done and it is up to them to either call me back or not. An if they DON'T, then they DON'T want to speak to me. They get deleted and I move on, plain and simple.

before you looked her up in the phone book, did you EVER speak to her in school?
how did the conversation go when you spoke to her on the phone? good? bad?
 

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i smell a troll, pretty soon this very same guy will start writeing advise columns and give advice to people in need.

if this is real dude, obviously you have some issues i mean looking up the girls phone number in the phone book is WOAH i mean did she even know you exsisted? or were you the creepy guy that leered at her in the corner. also dude calling 20-30 times?

clearly your wrongs don't even need to be pointed out.. i would come off creepy to myself if i did that.

but i'm gonna go with troll on this one.
 

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Deicide said:
I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
Of course it's part of your personality, you just have something that you're scared of stopping it from coming out.
 

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Deicide said:
I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
It's called change. It can be a ***** to do, but you will be thankful you did.
 

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Deicide said:
But after having several sessions of friendly talk I finally asked her out and she said no and I was persistent and asked if she'd please try it for a week with me and she said no and I felt terrible over it, I was angry and upset about it but just went on with my life ..
you should only pursue a girl until she says no. when she says no, then it is over and done. dont ask her again, cuz you cant change her mind. also, dont fall in love with her at the beginning. she's done nothin to earn your love yet. you came on too strong and as a result drove her away...far away.

next time try realizing that they have done nothing to make you fall for them yet, therefore you shouldn't. try flirting too, because friendly conversation gets you no where with a girl.

read the DJB or Gunwitch to learn flirting and sexual state. check out my sig too,lol.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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christz said:
i smell a troll, pretty soon this very same guy will start writeing advise columns and give advice to people in need.

if this is real dude, obviously you have some issues i mean looking up the girls phone number in the phone book is WOAH i mean did she even know you exsisted? or were you the creepy guy that leered at her in the corner. also dude calling 20-30 times?

clearly your wrongs don't even need to be pointed out.. i would come off creepy to myself if i did that.

but i'm gonna go with troll on this one.
No, I'm not a troll at all, I'm damn sure not writing any advice columns because I really don't know much at all about women. Yeah, she did, I had talked to her a few times but I was just too afraid to ask and I didn't think it'd be a big deal at all if I just called her, I had my hopes on getitng into a relationship with her. Every guy around me was getting a girlfriend, I didn't see why I couldn't but I was wrong. Actually when I came back to school I got to know her better and I'd still talk to her regularly everyday in class even after she turned me down but just on friendly terms. And I've still neevr got a girlfriend or had sex, I'll be 19 in 4 months, I'm almost done with my freshman year in college.
 

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What did you do wrong? Everything. Learn the bible.
 
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