"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Can you tell me what I did wrong in this failed attempt at a girl?

Deicide

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Can you tell me what I did wrong in this failed attempt Ok, this was the last time I pursued or asked a girl out, 1 1/2 years ago. Well it started just by me really liking this girl at my high school and I'd been a guy who really would like and get crushes on girls easily but never pursue them and I wanted to ask this girl for her phone number and I couldn't bring myself to do it, I was too afraid. So after school was out and I was on Summer break I looked her number up in the phone book and called her, I talked to her the first time I called on the phone but afterwards I called 20-30 times or maybe a little more and she never answered. So I just quit calling and would wait until school started to ask her out. So I had a class with her and would regularly go up to her and talk to her for a long while about things. It was just friendly conversation and I'd say awkward things sometimes that I know made her think WTF. lol. But after having several sessions of friendly talk I finally asked her out and she said no and I was persistent and asked if she'd please try it for a week with me and she said no and I felt terrible over it, I was angry and upset about it but just went on with my life and I still talked to her on friendly terms many times afterwards and we're still friends to this day. I tend to really fall for girls easily and have this never give up attitude about things so I'm very persistent and try very hard when I try to go out with a girl and I tend to just go for one girl at a time and heavily concentrate on them. So what'd I do wrong in my pursuit of this girl?
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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So pimp its scary

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You are AFC.

Do yourself a favor, read through the DJ Bible, and see if you still have that same question.
 

NickSCFC2000

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30 calls, woah!

You came across like a complete love sick puppy and scared the poor girl off, she probably finds you revolting.

1st lesson, play it cool!
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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So pimp its scary said:
Do yourself a favor, read through the DJ Bible, and see if you still have that same question.
:yes: RTFB
 

Deicide

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I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I looked her number up in the phone book and called her
seriously.. do you honestly NOT see a problen with this??
I know my first question would be HOW did you get my number?

I called 20-30 times or maybe a little more and she never answered.
damn, me personaly I ONLY call a person three times, and then I'm done and it is up to them to either call me back or not. An if they DON'T, then they DON'T want to speak to me. They get deleted and I move on, plain and simple.

before you looked her up in the phone book, did you EVER speak to her in school?
how did the conversation go when you spoke to her on the phone? good? bad?
 

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i smell a troll, pretty soon this very same guy will start writeing advise columns and give advice to people in need.

if this is real dude, obviously you have some issues i mean looking up the girls phone number in the phone book is WOAH i mean did she even know you exsisted? or were you the creepy guy that leered at her in the corner. also dude calling 20-30 times?

clearly your wrongs don't even need to be pointed out.. i would come off creepy to myself if i did that.

but i'm gonna go with troll on this one.
 

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Deicide said:
I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
Of course it's part of your personality, you just have something that you're scared of stopping it from coming out.
 

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Deicide said:
I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
It's called change. It can be a ***** to do, but you will be thankful you did.
 

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Deicide said:
But after having several sessions of friendly talk I finally asked her out and she said no and I was persistent and asked if she'd please try it for a week with me and she said no and I felt terrible over it, I was angry and upset about it but just went on with my life ..
you should only pursue a girl until she says no. when she says no, then it is over and done. dont ask her again, cuz you cant change her mind. also, dont fall in love with her at the beginning. she's done nothin to earn your love yet. you came on too strong and as a result drove her away...far away.

next time try realizing that they have done nothing to make you fall for them yet, therefore you shouldn't. try flirting too, because friendly conversation gets you no where with a girl.

read the DJB or Gunwitch to learn flirting and sexual state. check out my sig too,lol.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Deicide

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christz said:
i smell a troll, pretty soon this very same guy will start writeing advise columns and give advice to people in need.

if this is real dude, obviously you have some issues i mean looking up the girls phone number in the phone book is WOAH i mean did she even know you exsisted? or were you the creepy guy that leered at her in the corner. also dude calling 20-30 times?

clearly your wrongs don't even need to be pointed out.. i would come off creepy to myself if i did that.

but i'm gonna go with troll on this one.
No, I'm not a troll at all, I'm damn sure not writing any advice columns because I really don't know much at all about women. Yeah, she did, I had talked to her a few times but I was just too afraid to ask and I didn't think it'd be a big deal at all if I just called her, I had my hopes on getitng into a relationship with her. Every guy around me was getting a girlfriend, I didn't see why I couldn't but I was wrong. Actually when I came back to school I got to know her better and I'd still talk to her regularly everyday in class even after she turned me down but just on friendly terms. And I've still neevr got a girlfriend or had sex, I'll be 19 in 4 months, I'm almost done with my freshman year in college.
 

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What did you do wrong? Everything. Learn the bible.
 
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