"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Can you tell me what I did wrong in this failed attempt at a girl?

Deicide

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Can you tell me what I did wrong in this failed attempt Ok, this was the last time I pursued or asked a girl out, 1 1/2 years ago. Well it started just by me really liking this girl at my high school and I'd been a guy who really would like and get crushes on girls easily but never pursue them and I wanted to ask this girl for her phone number and I couldn't bring myself to do it, I was too afraid. So after school was out and I was on Summer break I looked her number up in the phone book and called her, I talked to her the first time I called on the phone but afterwards I called 20-30 times or maybe a little more and she never answered. So I just quit calling and would wait until school started to ask her out. So I had a class with her and would regularly go up to her and talk to her for a long while about things. It was just friendly conversation and I'd say awkward things sometimes that I know made her think WTF. lol. But after having several sessions of friendly talk I finally asked her out and she said no and I was persistent and asked if she'd please try it for a week with me and she said no and I felt terrible over it, I was angry and upset about it but just went on with my life and I still talked to her on friendly terms many times afterwards and we're still friends to this day. I tend to really fall for girls easily and have this never give up attitude about things so I'm very persistent and try very hard when I try to go out with a girl and I tend to just go for one girl at a time and heavily concentrate on them. So what'd I do wrong in my pursuit of this girl?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So pimp its scary

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You are AFC.

Do yourself a favor, read through the DJ Bible, and see if you still have that same question.
 

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30 calls, woah!

You came across like a complete love sick puppy and scared the poor girl off, she probably finds you revolting.

1st lesson, play it cool!
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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So pimp its scary said:
Do yourself a favor, read through the DJ Bible, and see if you still have that same question.
:yes: RTFB
 

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I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I looked her number up in the phone book and called her
seriously.. do you honestly NOT see a problen with this??
I know my first question would be HOW did you get my number?

I called 20-30 times or maybe a little more and she never answered.
damn, me personaly I ONLY call a person three times, and then I'm done and it is up to them to either call me back or not. An if they DON'T, then they DON'T want to speak to me. They get deleted and I move on, plain and simple.

before you looked her up in the phone book, did you EVER speak to her in school?
how did the conversation go when you spoke to her on the phone? good? bad?
 

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i smell a troll, pretty soon this very same guy will start writeing advise columns and give advice to people in need.

if this is real dude, obviously you have some issues i mean looking up the girls phone number in the phone book is WOAH i mean did she even know you exsisted? or were you the creepy guy that leered at her in the corner. also dude calling 20-30 times?

clearly your wrongs don't even need to be pointed out.. i would come off creepy to myself if i did that.

but i'm gonna go with troll on this one.
 

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Deicide said:
I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
Of course it's part of your personality, you just have something that you're scared of stopping it from coming out.
 

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Deicide said:
I read part of it, I have trouble doing some of the stuff I know from it because it's not really my personality, though I'll definitrely try.
It's called change. It can be a ***** to do, but you will be thankful you did.
 

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Deicide said:
But after having several sessions of friendly talk I finally asked her out and she said no and I was persistent and asked if she'd please try it for a week with me and she said no and I felt terrible over it, I was angry and upset about it but just went on with my life ..
you should only pursue a girl until she says no. when she says no, then it is over and done. dont ask her again, cuz you cant change her mind. also, dont fall in love with her at the beginning. she's done nothin to earn your love yet. you came on too strong and as a result drove her away...far away.

next time try realizing that they have done nothing to make you fall for them yet, therefore you shouldn't. try flirting too, because friendly conversation gets you no where with a girl.

read the DJB or Gunwitch to learn flirting and sexual state. check out my sig too,lol.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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christz said:
i smell a troll, pretty soon this very same guy will start writeing advise columns and give advice to people in need.

if this is real dude, obviously you have some issues i mean looking up the girls phone number in the phone book is WOAH i mean did she even know you exsisted? or were you the creepy guy that leered at her in the corner. also dude calling 20-30 times?

clearly your wrongs don't even need to be pointed out.. i would come off creepy to myself if i did that.

but i'm gonna go with troll on this one.
No, I'm not a troll at all, I'm damn sure not writing any advice columns because I really don't know much at all about women. Yeah, she did, I had talked to her a few times but I was just too afraid to ask and I didn't think it'd be a big deal at all if I just called her, I had my hopes on getitng into a relationship with her. Every guy around me was getting a girlfriend, I didn't see why I couldn't but I was wrong. Actually when I came back to school I got to know her better and I'd still talk to her regularly everyday in class even after she turned me down but just on friendly terms. And I've still neevr got a girlfriend or had sex, I'll be 19 in 4 months, I'm almost done with my freshman year in college.
 

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What did you do wrong? Everything. Learn the bible.
 
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