"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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can you regain status once its been lost?

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Bout a year ago i was a total on /off drunk,

Id usually drunk 8 beers before my company joined me in bars etc

Some women have seen me like this, the stupid thing is i got all these women out on their own. so it started off well(High interest). they ended up repulsed as i got drunk, but they have always remained polite with me since then.

Ive now been sober for a year, and seen two this week, they were overly touchy at the "NEW" me. it wasn't convenient to escalate.

Wondered if its worth the re-approach,( i never got passionate with either if that helps my cause).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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First ask yourself if you really want them or if you just want them to validate the new sober you. If yes to the former, proceed to action.

Rejection is always better than regret.
 
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deffo want them, just didnt want to invest too much if it would backfire in 4 weeks time
 
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derby1 said:
deffo want them, just didnt want to invest too much if it would backfire in 4 weeks time
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Make sure you have an active and successful "dating" life. Women talk and they will be aware/come sniffing around. Use outside social proofing to help you, ie: other women and environments where you have a good status.
 
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derby1 said:
Bout a year ago i was a total on /off drunk,

Id usually drunk 8 beers before my company joined me in bars etc

Some women have seen me like this, the stupid thing is i got all these women out on their own. so it started off well(High interest). they ended up repulsed as i got drunk, but they have always remained polite with me since then.

Ive now been sober for a year, and seen two this week, they were overly touchy at the "NEW" me. it wasn't convenient to escalate.

Wondered if its worth the re-approach,( i never got passionate with either if that helps my cause).
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Was curious, did you fvck them before? With them being touchy, are you in noticeably better conditioning this time around?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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mrgoodstuff said:
Was curious, did you fvck them before? With them being touchy, are you in noticeably better conditioning this time around?
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no never got that far. Just got them out in the first place,, then they "called it a night".

and yes my Body fat is down to 20% , it was 30%. I'm 6 foot 2, looked like a British rugby player. now look, like a bulky christopher reeve's

The girl tonight said "christ you've lost some weight" so its a good thing women are noticing
 
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no never got that far. Just got them out in the first place,, then they "called it a night".

and yes my Body fat is down to 20% , it was 30%. I'm 6 foot 2, looked like a British rugby player. now look, like a bulky christopher reeve's

The girl tonight said "christ you've lost some weight" so its a good thing women are noticing
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Down play the leaning out. Get it down below 15%, 10% or there about's is best. More babes will notice you. As far as status with these babes, worry about your interaction with new babes, and if somehow you do get around these babes, take them to a venue, a group or somewhere that you have good social proofing. That will reset most of their old perception. Also getting the lay makes a big difference.
 
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derby1 said:
yeah i know thats why i thought it may of helped not going for it in my drunken first state.
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I have some of these same scenarios in my life. Also dealing with groups which have "locked me out", or competitive with me.
 
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Not worth it to re-approach but you've done so well on self-improvement that you've put yourself in a much better place for approaches from this point forward to go well.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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SW15 said:
Not worth it to re-approach but you've done so well on self-improvement that you've put yourself in a much better place for approaches from this point forward to go well.
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I have your right, ive got two women out with me from day approach in 3 weeks, this is something id have never done before,

I was still interested in these two women, as they are good women, and childless, which is a commodity in our areas
 
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