"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bout a year ago i was a total on /off drunk,

Id usually drunk 8 beers before my company joined me in bars etc

Some women have seen me like this, the stupid thing is i got all these women out on their own. so it started off well(High interest). they ended up repulsed as i got drunk, but they have always remained polite with me since then.

Ive now been sober for a year, and seen two this week, they were overly touchy at the "NEW" me. it wasn't convenient to escalate.

Wondered if its worth the re-approach,( i never got passionate with either if that helps my cause).
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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First ask yourself if you really want them or if you just want them to validate the new sober you. If yes to the former, proceed to action.

Rejection is always better than regret.
 

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deffo want them, just didnt want to invest too much if it would backfire in 4 weeks time
 

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deffo want them, just didnt want to invest too much if it would backfire in 4 weeks time
Make sure you have an active and successful "dating" life. Women talk and they will be aware/come sniffing around. Use outside social proofing to help you, ie: other women and environments where you have a good status.
 
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Bout a year ago i was a total on /off drunk,

Id usually drunk 8 beers before my company joined me in bars etc

Some women have seen me like this, the stupid thing is i got all these women out on their own. so it started off well(High interest). they ended up repulsed as i got drunk, but they have always remained polite with me since then.

Ive now been sober for a year, and seen two this week, they were overly touchy at the "NEW" me. it wasn't convenient to escalate.

Wondered if its worth the re-approach,( i never got passionate with either if that helps my cause).
Was curious, did you fvck them before? With them being touchy, are you in noticeably better conditioning this time around?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Was curious, did you fvck them before? With them being touchy, are you in noticeably better conditioning this time around?
no never got that far. Just got them out in the first place,, then they "called it a night".

and yes my Body fat is down to 20% , it was 30%. I'm 6 foot 2, looked like a British rugby player. now look, like a bulky christopher reeve's

The girl tonight said "christ you've lost some weight" so its a good thing women are noticing
 

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no never got that far. Just got them out in the first place,, then they "called it a night".

and yes my Body fat is down to 20% , it was 30%. I'm 6 foot 2, looked like a British rugby player. now look, like a bulky christopher reeve's

The girl tonight said "christ you've lost some weight" so its a good thing women are noticing
Down play the leaning out. Get it down below 15%, 10% or there about's is best. More babes will notice you. As far as status with these babes, worry about your interaction with new babes, and if somehow you do get around these babes, take them to a venue, a group or somewhere that you have good social proofing. That will reset most of their old perception. Also getting the lay makes a big difference.
 

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yeah i know thats why i thought it may of helped not going for it in my drunken first state.
I have some of these same scenarios in my life. Also dealing with groups which have "locked me out", or competitive with me.
 

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Not worth it to re-approach but you've done so well on self-improvement that you've put yourself in a much better place for approaches from this point forward to go well.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Not worth it to re-approach but you've done so well on self-improvement that you've put yourself in a much better place for approaches from this point forward to go well.
I have your right, ive got two women out with me from day approach in 3 weeks, this is something id have never done before,

I was still interested in these two women, as they are good women, and childless, which is a commodity in our areas
 
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