"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Can you get a girl only using C&F?

Smectron

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There's this girl I've been talking to over msn for almost a year now and two months ago we began studying at the same university. We don't go in the same class so we don't meet that often but sometimes we go to the library to study. As you can figure out I'm not studying, I always make jokes about her and using C&F all the way. She's not studying either cause she's laughing all the time. The whole C&F thing is working out great and I mix this with some kino. Like putting my legs over hers under the table, pushing her around, holding her back when she tries to take a book or pencil from me and so forth.
The thing is that I think this girl is great. I love her looks and personality and we always have fun when we're together. I want to move on to a serious relationship but I don't know how to do that only using C&F. And I don't wanna tell her about how I feel since that would put me back in AFC behavior.

I guess C&F is good to show hot women that I don't care about how hot they are, I'm confident enough to joke about them and almost be rude but when you meet a girl and want to go further than a one-night-stand....does C&F still work?
So my question is how do I make her feel so attracted to me that she'll go into a relationship with me? Because right now this C&F thing makes me feel like we're just friends having a great time.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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woods

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If its sexual C+F, she should be responding, if shes interested like that.
 

banGbro

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mmmm, I havent read past I talked to her on msn for over a year
 
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