She saw me skateboarding and I dunno if she was impressed. So the next time I see her maybe Ill say: So how was my skateboarding on a scale from 1-10. 1 being good and 10 being good? (A little CF?) Anyways could that just be my opener?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Can this be my opener?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Grand Wizzard Alamar
Master Don Juan
lol you might confuse her but go ahead if you think you can pull it off.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
"So how did you like my skateboarding on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being awesome and 10 being kick @$$? Please be as honest as you possibly can."
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That confident approach is the only way to go about it. ^comic_relief said:"So how did you like my skateboarding on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being awesome and 10 being kick @$$? Please be as honest as you possibly can."
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Any way else seems too desparate, seeking approval a bit too much.
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Witty, I like itcomic_relief said:"So how did you like my skateboarding on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being awesome and 10 being kick @$$? Please be as honest as you possibly can."
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Supremo
Senior Don Juan
You: So, I saw you watching me skateboard the other day. Here's a piece of paper with my name and number on it. Think about how much that'll be worth in the future! Later.
Money in the bank son. One of the only times I would condole giving your number rather than asking for one.
Money in the bank son. One of the only times I would condole giving your number rather than asking for one.
I find that often a lot of guys overdo the whole opening thing. ****y funny lines are overused, an opener is just meant to OPEN. If you think you have better chance at a decent conversation with something simpler than your C+F opener, use it instead.
Not every opener must be ****y funny, with a time constraint and all that other crap. Even less so when you're in High School and the Game is completely different.
Not every opener must be ****y funny, with a time constraint and all that other crap. Even less so when you're in High School and the Game is completely different.
jesusrules
Senior Don Juan
thats fine. or ask her "hey want to try" then talk to her.