"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Can I confide with her friend?

Caesar

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Would this work to my advantage? I had the opportunity to meet the good friend of the girl I am interested in. I know how girls love to talk. Maybe she could put in a good word for me?
Would it be smart to befriend her?

Caesar
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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GirlCrazy

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That kind of behavior just makes you look weak. Don't do it. If you like her, tell her. If one of her friends asks you if you like her, say that it's between you and her.
 

RaMar

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Its always nice to become friends with her friends but its probably not a good idea to be pouring out your feelings for the girl to her friend.

I just try to get on her friends nice side because quite frankly it makes things much easier then if her friends were to hate me. Then your chances are slim and none.
 

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Yeah it's ok to befriend her friends. Hell you could find you like her friends better than her, and it never hurts to have a plan B.

Just don't use them to express interest - that should be done one on one.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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blinkwatt

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the person a couple of post above me is right,it makes you look weak. if your lady finds out you confind in her friend,she may not like it either. BEST ADVICE IS TO KEEP IT ON THIS SITE OR DONT TALK ABOUT IT AT ALL.
 

Desdinova

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Doing anything except approaching her is easier, isn't it? Forget going through her friends, writing notes, getting your friends to talk to her, ect. ect. Quit being such a wimp and approach her directly.
 

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dude, NEVER say anything to a girl's friend that you don't want to get back to her. EVER. just don't. I've had sh*t happen to me from that too many times to do it again.
 

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Originally posted by lebRambo
dude, NEVER say anything to a girl's friend that you don't want to get back to her. EVER. just don't. I've had sh*t happen to me from that too many times to do it again.
Agreed...... VERY agreed.

As the others say, make sure you end up on the nice side with her friends, but DO NOT under ANY circumstances, ask for advice/help from these persons.

as the ninja said, you'll only appear scared/weak, which is a big no no.

//Deus
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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