SamTheHobit
Master Don Juan
Im not saying that im extremly attractive or whatever, but is it possible being to attractive and handsome work against you in the dating world?
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
synergy1 said:Being attractive absolutely kills your chances with women. Based on theory, being too attractive should make it so fat women will hate you, and attractive women will be too scared of your looks. Also based on theory, it is way more beneficial to work on superficial game to promote fake value rather than spend time working out in a gym. After all, being in good shape and working towards those goals only shows women that you are insecure and need to work hard to impress others. This is a horrible thing to by typecast for, and its much preferable to stay average looking and work on your game. While its true that most good looking women and paired off with good looking guys, I attribute this to erroneous circumstances or just plai luck. None of these guys have real game and most of them aren't really as good as me on other levels.
In short, the one example I read about on the internet about a ugly guy getting a really hot chick acts as the golden standard for looks regarding women and proves that being good looking is totally counter productive in the dating circle.
Being good looking and in shape have other downsides too, mainly in terms of contracting sicknesses or injuries. Ever hear of athletes foot or pulled groins? I'd rather work on magic tricks than have a six pack or be good at sports.
So your saying if a guy is extremely atractive he is f#@ked in the dating world?synergy1 said:Being attractive absolutely kills your chances with women. Based on theory, being too attractive should make it so fat women will hate you, and attractive women will be too scared of your looks. Also based on theory, it is way more beneficial to work on superficial game to promote fake value rather than spend time working out in a gym. After all, being in good shape and working towards those goals only shows women that you are insecure and need to work hard to impress others. This is a horrible thing to by typecast for, and its much preferable to stay average looking and work on your game. While its true that most good looking women and paired off with good looking guys, I attribute this to erroneous circumstances or just plai luck. None of these guys have real game and most of them aren't really as good as me on other levels.
In short, the one example I read about on the internet about a ugly guy getting a really hot chick acts as the golden standard for looks regarding women and proves that being good looking is totally counter productive in the dating circle.
Being good looking and in shape have other downsides too, mainly in terms of contracting sicknesses or injuries. Ever hear of athletes foot or pulled groins? I'd rather work on magic tricks than have a six pack or be good at sports.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
No. And you know damn well that's not true.SamTheHobit said:So your saying if a guy is extremely atractive he is f#@ked in the dating world?
SamTheHobit said:So your saying if a guy is extremely atractive he is f#@ked in the dating world?
Funny shiit dude!!!! Very well written!!!synergy1 said:Being attractive absolutely kills your chances with women. Based on theory, being too attractive should make it so fat women will hate you, and attractive women will be too scared of your looks. Also based on theory, it is way more beneficial to work on superficial game to promote fake value rather than spend time working out in a gym. After all, being in good shape and working towards those goals only shows women that you are insecure and need to work hard to impress others. This is a horrible thing to by typecast for, and its much preferable to stay average looking and work on your game. While its true that most good looking women and paired off with good looking guys, I attribute this to erroneous circumstances or just plai luck. None of these guys have real game and most of them aren't really as good as me on other levels.
In short, the one example I read about on the internet about a ugly guy getting a really hot chick acts as the golden standard for looks regarding women and proves that being good looking is totally counter productive in the dating circle.
Being good looking and in shape have other downsides too, mainly in terms of contracting sicknesses or injuries. Ever hear of athletes foot or pulled groins? I'd rather work on magic tricks than have a six pack or be good at sports.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
This sounds just like me, minus the tall part.Jariel said:I'm considered an attractive guy, plus I'm in good shape and tall. One thing I find does go against me is that I am often prejudged as a player or as being full of myself, and women will sometimes treat me very coldly until they get to know more about me.
I loathe the Brad Pitt analogies on this site. The man has money, and social proof... If you were a UG2 yet a celebrity, women would still throw themselves at you.RedZone said:Yeah it hurts...just ask Brad Pitt. He's really struggling to find women right now.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
What he said.. Really sucks to be an attractive guy in the field right now. Women hate that ****. Makes them feel all insecure. All those poor handsome guys out there losing girls to pimps rocking the love handles and ****.. Can't beat those guys, man... :crackup:RedZone said:Yeah it hurts...just ask Brad Pitt. He's really struggling to find women right now.
Basically, learn how to handle women. Eventually, a hot girl will wanna make you her trophy the same way you wanna make her your trophy. Even if you don't approach, if you know how to get her and handle her once your foot is in the door, you'll be good.Fuglydude said:Funny shiit dude!!!! Very well written!!!
I'm an attractive guy. If you wanna see pics check out some of my other posts, or my competition log on the HnF forum.
Being attractive definitely helps with initially getting female attention. However, if you're not sexual and don't know how to escalate, flirt, and build sexual tension, and close the deal, then you'll be left with blue balls.
This here is the truth. It's all about being sexual. I put pics up on hotornot in the past and always scored 8+. All of the baddest chicks I've banged typically start with me being a lil liquored and alot of horny. Most guys ARE NOT sexual with hot chicks AND THEN try to make a move. Sexually witty banter that she reciprocates is the key. Builds sexual tension and you'll be lucky if she doesn't stick her tongue down your throat first
However, the biggest problem that I had was simply being lazy with approaching. I'd almost always approach women that I knew were interested in me, or simply wait for women to make the first move. When you're attractive you'll have a lot of girls that wanna get railed by you, so there was generally a wide range to choose from. Going for girls that you knew already wanted your cack was highly efficient. I was in school fulltime and "working" when I was single, so efficiency was important.
Truth. Laziness for some, shyness/approach anxiety for others. Fact is, not approaching at all you'll probably still get 1-3 new pieces of tail annually. With approaching, 1 - 3 new pieces monthly.
I worked on myself rather than my game. Currently I have 2 university degrees and a low 6-figure income and a top 10% body. However, my game has never been very strong. I think this is a potential disadvantage of being attractive: you get lazy learning game, because quite frankly you don't need to. I'm always amazed when I see an unattractive guy with a hot girl... I'm like "ya, that dude must have a giant dong!", or something to that effect. The choice to not get better game was a conscious decision, and obviously you're gonna have good lookin dudes out there with killer game that pull mad snatch.
Overall, I really don't think being attractive can ruin your chances with women, provided of course that you're a well-rounded man who has his proverbial shiit together. You also gotta be an animal in the sack, gotta know how to build sexual tension... oh ya, and have game too.
Been there done that man... I'm engaged to a semi-pro model and figure competitor. I'm outta the game, and can focus on other aspects of my life like my career and build. I have no interest in learning how to "handle women" as I'm already in a great relationship.Young Juan said:Basically, learn how to handle women. Eventually, a hot girl will wanna make you her trophy the same way you wanna make her your trophy. Even if you don't approach, if you know how to get her and handle her once your foot is in the door, you'll be good.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.