SamTheHobit
Master Don Juan
Im not saying that im extremly attractive or whatever, but is it possible being to attractive and handsome work against you in the dating world?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
synergy1 said:Being attractive absolutely kills your chances with women. Based on theory, being too attractive should make it so fat women will hate you, and attractive women will be too scared of your looks. Also based on theory, it is way more beneficial to work on superficial game to promote fake value rather than spend time working out in a gym. After all, being in good shape and working towards those goals only shows women that you are insecure and need to work hard to impress others. This is a horrible thing to by typecast for, and its much preferable to stay average looking and work on your game. While its true that most good looking women and paired off with good looking guys, I attribute this to erroneous circumstances or just plai luck. None of these guys have real game and most of them aren't really as good as me on other levels.
In short, the one example I read about on the internet about a ugly guy getting a really hot chick acts as the golden standard for looks regarding women and proves that being good looking is totally counter productive in the dating circle.
Being good looking and in shape have other downsides too, mainly in terms of contracting sicknesses or injuries. Ever hear of athletes foot or pulled groins? I'd rather work on magic tricks than have a six pack or be good at sports.
So your saying if a guy is extremely atractive he is f#@ked in the dating world?synergy1 said:Being attractive absolutely kills your chances with women. Based on theory, being too attractive should make it so fat women will hate you, and attractive women will be too scared of your looks. Also based on theory, it is way more beneficial to work on superficial game to promote fake value rather than spend time working out in a gym. After all, being in good shape and working towards those goals only shows women that you are insecure and need to work hard to impress others. This is a horrible thing to by typecast for, and its much preferable to stay average looking and work on your game. While its true that most good looking women and paired off with good looking guys, I attribute this to erroneous circumstances or just plai luck. None of these guys have real game and most of them aren't really as good as me on other levels.
In short, the one example I read about on the internet about a ugly guy getting a really hot chick acts as the golden standard for looks regarding women and proves that being good looking is totally counter productive in the dating circle.
Being good looking and in shape have other downsides too, mainly in terms of contracting sicknesses or injuries. Ever hear of athletes foot or pulled groins? I'd rather work on magic tricks than have a six pack or be good at sports.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
No. And you know damn well that's not true.SamTheHobit said:So your saying if a guy is extremely atractive he is f#@ked in the dating world?
SamTheHobit said:So your saying if a guy is extremely atractive he is f#@ked in the dating world?
Funny shiit dude!!!! Very well written!!!synergy1 said:Being attractive absolutely kills your chances with women. Based on theory, being too attractive should make it so fat women will hate you, and attractive women will be too scared of your looks. Also based on theory, it is way more beneficial to work on superficial game to promote fake value rather than spend time working out in a gym. After all, being in good shape and working towards those goals only shows women that you are insecure and need to work hard to impress others. This is a horrible thing to by typecast for, and its much preferable to stay average looking and work on your game. While its true that most good looking women and paired off with good looking guys, I attribute this to erroneous circumstances or just plai luck. None of these guys have real game and most of them aren't really as good as me on other levels.
In short, the one example I read about on the internet about a ugly guy getting a really hot chick acts as the golden standard for looks regarding women and proves that being good looking is totally counter productive in the dating circle.
Being good looking and in shape have other downsides too, mainly in terms of contracting sicknesses or injuries. Ever hear of athletes foot or pulled groins? I'd rather work on magic tricks than have a six pack or be good at sports.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
This sounds just like me, minus the tall part.Jariel said:I'm considered an attractive guy, plus I'm in good shape and tall. One thing I find does go against me is that I am often prejudged as a player or as being full of myself, and women will sometimes treat me very coldly until they get to know more about me.
I loathe the Brad Pitt analogies on this site. The man has money, and social proof... If you were a UG2 yet a celebrity, women would still throw themselves at you.RedZone said:Yeah it hurts...just ask Brad Pitt. He's really struggling to find women right now.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
What he said.. Really sucks to be an attractive guy in the field right now. Women hate that ****. Makes them feel all insecure. All those poor handsome guys out there losing girls to pimps rocking the love handles and ****.. Can't beat those guys, man... :crackup:RedZone said:Yeah it hurts...just ask Brad Pitt. He's really struggling to find women right now.
Basically, learn how to handle women. Eventually, a hot girl will wanna make you her trophy the same way you wanna make her your trophy. Even if you don't approach, if you know how to get her and handle her once your foot is in the door, you'll be good.Fuglydude said:Funny shiit dude!!!! Very well written!!!
I'm an attractive guy. If you wanna see pics check out some of my other posts, or my competition log on the HnF forum.
Being attractive definitely helps with initially getting female attention. However, if you're not sexual and don't know how to escalate, flirt, and build sexual tension, and close the deal, then you'll be left with blue balls.
This here is the truth. It's all about being sexual. I put pics up on hotornot in the past and always scored 8+. All of the baddest chicks I've banged typically start with me being a lil liquored and alot of horny. Most guys ARE NOT sexual with hot chicks AND THEN try to make a move. Sexually witty banter that she reciprocates is the key. Builds sexual tension and you'll be lucky if she doesn't stick her tongue down your throat first
However, the biggest problem that I had was simply being lazy with approaching. I'd almost always approach women that I knew were interested in me, or simply wait for women to make the first move. When you're attractive you'll have a lot of girls that wanna get railed by you, so there was generally a wide range to choose from. Going for girls that you knew already wanted your cack was highly efficient. I was in school fulltime and "working" when I was single, so efficiency was important.
Truth. Laziness for some, shyness/approach anxiety for others. Fact is, not approaching at all you'll probably still get 1-3 new pieces of tail annually. With approaching, 1 - 3 new pieces monthly.
I worked on myself rather than my game. Currently I have 2 university degrees and a low 6-figure income and a top 10% body. However, my game has never been very strong. I think this is a potential disadvantage of being attractive: you get lazy learning game, because quite frankly you don't need to. I'm always amazed when I see an unattractive guy with a hot girl... I'm like "ya, that dude must have a giant dong!", or something to that effect. The choice to not get better game was a conscious decision, and obviously you're gonna have good lookin dudes out there with killer game that pull mad snatch.
Overall, I really don't think being attractive can ruin your chances with women, provided of course that you're a well-rounded man who has his proverbial shiit together. You also gotta be an animal in the sack, gotta know how to build sexual tension... oh ya, and have game too.
Been there done that man... I'm engaged to a semi-pro model and figure competitor. I'm outta the game, and can focus on other aspects of my life like my career and build. I have no interest in learning how to "handle women" as I'm already in a great relationship.Young Juan said:Basically, learn how to handle women. Eventually, a hot girl will wanna make you her trophy the same way you wanna make her your trophy. Even if you don't approach, if you know how to get her and handle her once your foot is in the door, you'll be good.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.