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Don Juan
How many days do you guys usually wait to call a girl for a second date?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Date went well. Hugged at the beginning, hugged and kissed (on cheek) at the end. Good convo with TONS of C/F that she loved. This girl is HOT but I don't think she even realises it (she showed me her permit from July and she looked like a totally different person). In fact, she told me she actually thinks she looks like a boy.Originally posted by JC Jerkson
DAFS.
In other words... do a fvcking search nextime.
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It depends on well the date went. Calibration will tell you. When you're in the field you will be able to FEEL when you should call her.
But since you just getting your feet wet I'd say wait a few days to a week.
JC Jerkson
Not a bad idea. Tuesday it is. Thanks for the help.Originally posted by JC Jerkson
Actually you fvcked up my whole week. :box:
Call her on Tuesday night. That will give you some good conversation. Ask her about what she did for Halloween. Tease her about her costume whatever it is.
JC Jerkson
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
That's a good idea however this weekend in particular is Halloween weekend so I would think calling a girl even on a Sunday night would not be good as that when the parties are happening. And since Monday is Halloween, calling her that night may be a bad idea as well so Tuesday seems like the best bet for me in this case.Originally posted by Vincent Freeman
I usually wait 2-3 days or the Friday of that coming weekend. Lets me get in there before she makes other plans. You don't want to wait too long because it might seem your not interested. Go with your gut!
Originally posted by JC Jerkson
DAFS.
In other words... do a fvcking search nextime.
JC Jerkson
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I'm new to this and I rather play it safe so I'll wait till Tuesday. She was giving me lots of those positive female body language signs I have read about but nevertheless, I'll play it safe this time.Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
sparklemotion its hard because most guys dont understand ATTRACTION. These rules are not what attracts women, the rules keep them attracted, its the fact that we complete THEM, meaning women, thats the reason for the attraction. We complete them through our dominant behaviors, and dominant maleness, that is what makes her horny, is men would simply start acting more masculine, and dominant then there would not be all these woman problems because you will be seen as teh prize.....I dont think he protrayed these dominant male qualities, because if he did, he would not come here asking when to call, when to shyt, when to piss, etc, etc. When you get in your position as a man, women get in theres, and that means they submit to you...bottom line, point blank, why is that so hard. these rules, mean nothing unless the attractive guy is using them. Why wait til after halloween, if she is attracted, and if he was the dominant male, he can fvck her everyday until and after halloween........